New York Bach Strad or a Mount Vernon Bach Strad; whats the

[trpt2honk]

I don't know the history of the Bach Strad like I should. I do know that the Mount Vernon factory burned and the mandrels with it. But other than that what's the big difference between a New York Bach Strad and a Mount Vernon Bach Strad? If this is a thread that I haven't found yet please forgive me and direct me there.

Mike
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[kehaulani]

https://bachloyalist.com/category/trumpet/
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[Goby]

The Mount Vernon facility never burned down, and the tools were brought to Elkhart. Bach started building trumpets in the 1920’s in Manhattan before moving to a larger facility in the Bronx. The trumpets made in the New York era were near copies of the French Besson trumpet: lightweight, bright sounding, and with a tighter wrap. Bach experimented with bells, leadpipes, bore sizes, and materials during these early years before settling in on a handful of designs starting in approximately 1948. In 1952, he moved from the Bronx factory to a new facility in Mount Vernon, New York, and this is where the famous Chicago Symphony C trumpets were built. The Mt Vernon instruments are very similar to the late NY era Bachs, but have little resemblance to the instruments Bach built in the 1930’s. In 1962, Bach sold his company to Selmer, and they moved the factory to Elkhart, IN in 1965. I believe Bach brought most of the workers to the new facility, and the mandrels certainly made the trip successfully, as Bach has most of the old mandrels on display at the factory to this day. The Elkhart era is divided up into a few different periods. During the “early Elkhart” era (1965-1976), Vincent Bach was still the shop foreman and instruments were built to the same specifications as at Mt Vernon. After Bach’s retirement, a number of changes were made to the Stradivarius, making it cheaper to produce, but cheapening the sound of the instruments as well. The decline in quality was greatly exacerbated by the strike at the factory in 2006, in which Conn-Selmer, the company that owns Bach, fired striking workers and broke up the union. Bach still struggles with quality control to this day, but they have brought back the original early Elkhart specs with the new 190 “anniversary” series.

[OldSchoolEuph]

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Vincent Bach and his Trumpets

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[trumpet56]

New York Bach Strad (1941) hands down. More color in the sound.

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[Bethmike]

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[Bethmike]

Thanks! Just ordered a copy.
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