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F&B New Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2023 Posts: 5 Location: Niskayuna, NY
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:27 pm Post subject: Custom Mouthpiece |
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I am curious about mouthpieces. I am looking to replace my 3C. I have a 2C, 1 1/2C, a NY 3C gold plated and a NY 10. I primarily use the 3C which is 2 years old. I’ve explored Stork, Toshi and GR. Any thoughts? |
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Tpt_Guy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 1102 Location: Sacramento, Ca
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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My first thought is:
Why are you looking to replace it? _________________ -Tom Hall-
"A good teacher protects his pupils from his own influence."
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2044 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:20 am Post subject: |
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A 3C is a very common size. Your best bet is to contact other trumpet mouthpiece makers, discuss what you like/don't like about your current 3C, what your playing needs are, and then get their recommendation.
You've already explored Bach, GR, Stork and Toshi. Try contacting Pickett/Blackburn, Hammond Design, Warburton, Greg Black Mouthpieces, Bob Reeves Brass Mouthpieces...and get their insights.
If you opt to keep trying on your own, Mouthpiece has a reasonable return policy, and they stock Curry, Schilke, Yamaha and others. |
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 988 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Another thing to consider is asking some of your fellow trumpet players if they have mouthpiece you can try, maybe one of those will give you a hint as to what it is you're looking for. Another way to try mouthpieces cheaply is to buy them used on the internet, because if you don't like them, you can re-sell them for more or less the same value that you bought them for. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
AR Resonance mouthpieces |
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Just_Another_Hack Regular Member
Joined: 27 Feb 2023 Posts: 54 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Why are you looking to change? How long have you been playing? What's broken that you're trying to fix? _________________ Professional lower-split 3rd clarinet player. |
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 1015 Location: Mid-Hudson Valley, NY
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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In addition to the good questions and comments already stated, what model Stork and GR did you try (and I'm not familiar with Toshi but some here will be)?
I migrated over a few decades from an older 3C to Warburton 4MC to GR 66 MS where I am now. I've played a Pickett/Blackburn 3, which is similar and really nice for classical. And I've played a Touvron from Donat, which is a great sound for church if I don't need to go above the staff.
So, what models of those brands?
And, I see you are near me. Are you at SCCC? Union? _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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F&B New Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2023 Posts: 5 Location: Niskayuna, NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Tpt_Guy wrote: | My first thought is:
Why are you looking to replace it? |
As I get older my embouchure is getting thinner and endurance seems to be waning. I will stay with the 3C unless something really wows me. |
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F&B New Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2023 Posts: 5 Location: Niskayuna, NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Riojazz wrote: | In addition to the good questions and comments already stated, what model Stork and GR did you try (and I'm not familiar with Toshi but some here will be)?
I migrated over a few decades from an older 3C to Warburton 4MC to GR 66 MS where I am now. I've played a Pickett/Blackburn 3, which is similar and really nice for classical. And I've played a Touvron from Donat, which is a great sound for church if I don't need to go above the staff.
So, what models of those brands?
And, I see you are near me. Are you at SCCC? Union? |
I’ve looked at so many models. I tried the GR Bergeron - I’m not a high note player for the most part. Looking for a tone more than anything else.
I’m a private student with one of the teachers at SCCC. |
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acompton Regular Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2022 Posts: 62 Location: Saint John, IN
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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F&B wrote: | As I get older my embouchure is getting thinner and endurance seems to be waning. I will stay with the 3C unless something really wows me. |
I was playing a Bach 3B for the longest time, and even tried to move into the 1 1/2 C range recently, but some local cats got me cued in to the size 6. I've been really pleased with how these MPs have treated me now that I'm older. For my C, I'm moving mostly between a Yamaha Hagstrom and a Bach 6BM, and with my Bb, I move between a Bach 6 and a Bach 6C (I've got one with a 26 throat I prefer). It's definitely something to consider for efficiency.
All best on your search!
Andrew _________________ Andrew Compton
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dershem Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Marecinkiewicz "Baptist" model is similar in diameter to a 3C, but much more comfortable. I use one for my C trumpet. _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 1015 Location: Mid-Hudson Valley, NY
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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F&B wrote: | Riojazz wrote: | In addition to the good questions and comments already stated, what model Stork and GR did you try (and I'm not familiar with Toshi but some here will be)?
I migrated over a few decades from an older 3C to Warburton 4MC to GR 66 MS where I am now. I've played a Pickett/Blackburn 3, which is similar and really nice for classical. And I've played a Touvron from Donat, which is a great sound for church if I don't need to go above the staff.
So, what models of those brands?
And, I see you are near me. Are you at SCCC? Union? |
I’ve looked at so many models. I tried the GR Bergeron - I’m not a high note player for the most part. Looking for a tone more than anything else.
I’m a private student with one of the teachers at SCCC. |
Canterbury? Bellino?
I think the Wayne Bergeron mouthpieces are nowhere near a 3C. With a rim inside diameter of .631 they are closer to a 10.5 C. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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F&B New Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2023 Posts: 5 Location: Niskayuna, NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:45 am Post subject: |
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I can’t tell if my response posted so I’ll give it another go. I was able to to try several of the mouthpieces that were suggested and a few others that were not through a friend who had a collection from a lifetime of searching for the perfect setup. After that experiment I settled on the ACB HH. It just seemed to fit. Comfortable and I really liked the sound. Thank you everyone for their time, advice and suggestions. I appreciate it. |
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F&B New Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2023 Posts: 5 Location: Niskayuna, NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:02 am Post subject: Custom mouthpiece |
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Thank you to everyone for your support and suggestions. I appreciated the feedback and openness. I was able to try several mouthpieces through a friend who has spent a lifetime in search of the perfect setup. Too many mouthpieces to even comprehend in his collection. Lol. I settled on an Austin Custom Brass HH. It just worked for me. It was a lot like my 2C but a little more open and very comfortable for me. I have a Bach 2C, they say the two are similar, I’ll let you know. Now I have some mouthpieces to sell, lol. |
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