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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9193 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:37 am Post subject: Golden Flair-King or Buecher? |
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I really apologise but I forgot the thread that might give me a link to the right person to ask. So . .
I'm looking for a Golden Flair trumpet.
Is that a King Golden Flair or a Buescher Golden flair?
Or a Buescher Golden Flair made by King?
(At any rate, I know it's KMI and not UMI built.)
Thanks, K-. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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jrpbrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:17 pm Post subject: Golden Flair |
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The Golden Flair was made by King as a medium bore version of the Silver Flair. Pretty rare. _________________ BrassHistory.net
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Golden Flair |
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jrpbrass wrote: | The Golden Flair was made by King as a medium bore version of the Silver Flair. Pretty rare. |
It's really a completely different design from the Silver Flair. See the posts by plankowner110 and Winghorn in the following thread: https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79799&highlight=king+golden+flair _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
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jrpbrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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So far, I have only found examples from the 1975 to 1977 period. _________________ BrassHistory.net
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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jrpbrass wrote: | So far, I have only found examples from the 1975 to 1977 period. |
That's fine; my main intention was to point out that the original Golden Flair was not simply "a medium bore version of the Silver Flair". It was in fact a completely different design.
UMI made a horn called the King Golden Flair after it acquired King, but that was a very different horn from the original, with a different model number (2065, as opposed to 1077). _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Golden Flair |
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Halflip, thank you so much for such an informative thread. Says it all.
(As an aside, I am so tired of people who speak with such assumed authority about things they know nothing about. Where do these guys come from?) _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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I had one in the 70's. Thin wall tubing - had more of a Benge-Schilke feel to it. A great trumpet for small pit orchestras where you wanted intensity in your sound without having to go to a volume level that would overpower the rest of the group. I remember it to be a ML bore. |
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chef8489 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I know where there is a 1979 kmi 2000at in gold plate. Not a golden flare but it is still a great horn. If they still have it after I get my 1967 Bach restored I might pick it up. _________________ Current horns
2023 Bach 19072G/43 pipe with 1st trigger
1966 H.N. White King Silver Flair
1965 H.N. White King Super 20 Sllversonic Symphony 1st trigger |
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