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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:37 am    Post subject: Golden Flair-King or Buecher? Reply with quote

I really apologise but I forgot the thread that might give me a link to the right person to ask. So . .

I'm looking for a Golden Flair trumpet.
Is that a King Golden Flair or a Buescher Golden flair?
Or a Buescher Golden Flair made by King?

(At any rate, I know it's KMI and not UMI built.)

Thanks, K-.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:17 pm    Post subject: Golden Flair Reply with quote

The Golden Flair was made by King as a medium bore version of the Silver Flair. Pretty rare.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Golden Flair Reply with quote

jrpbrass wrote:
The Golden Flair was made by King as a medium bore version of the Silver Flair. Pretty rare.

It's really a completely different design from the Silver Flair. See the posts by plankowner110 and Winghorn in the following thread: https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79799&highlight=king+golden+flair
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, I have only found examples from the 1975 to 1977 period.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrpbrass wrote:
So far, I have only found examples from the 1975 to 1977 period.

That's fine; my main intention was to point out that the original Golden Flair was not simply "a medium bore version of the Silver Flair". It was in fact a completely different design.

UMI made a horn called the King Golden Flair after it acquired King, but that was a very different horn from the original, with a different model number (2065, as opposed to 1077).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Golden Flair Reply with quote

Halflip wrote:

It's really a completely different design from the Silver Flair. See the posts by plankowner110 and Winghorn in the following thread: https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79799&highlight=king+golden+flair

Halflip, thank you so much for such an informative thread. Says it all.

(As an aside, I am so tired of people who speak with such assumed authority about things they know nothing about. Where do these guys come from?)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one in the 70's. Thin wall tubing - had more of a Benge-Schilke feel to it. A great trumpet for small pit orchestras where you wanted intensity in your sound without having to go to a volume level that would overpower the rest of the group. I remember it to be a ML bore.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know where there is a 1979 kmi 2000at in gold plate. Not a golden flare but it is still a great horn. If they still have it after I get my 1967 Bach restored I might pick it up.
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