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| Getzen wrote: | B STOCK
Edwards X-13 trumpet
Satin lacquer with a small stain on the bell under the lacquer |
I only see an X-17 and X-27. I am not up to speed on all the Edwards/Getzen models, but was very interested in an X-13 based on some previous TH threads.
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I watch these every time for a Proteus. So far no luck. . . . . .
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| I grabbed a Proteus in this sale back in 2020 or '21, Ron. Great balanced horn. There's a 907DLX in this batch. |
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| ldwoods wrote: | | Getzen wrote: | B STOCK
Edwards X-13 trumpet
Satin lacquer with a small stain on the bell under the lacquer |
I only see an X-17 and X-27. I am not up to speed on all the Edwards/Getzen models, but was very interested in an X-13 based on some previous TH threads. |
When an X-13 comes up on a sale like this, there are only, to paraphrase Norman Mailer, the quick and the dead. |
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Getzen
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| Croquethed wrote: | | When an X-13 comes up on a sale like this, there are only, to paraphrase Norman Mailer, the quick and the dead. |
Gold star to anyone out there who can guess who got the X-13. 
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| OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | I watch these every time for a Proteus. So far no luck. . . . . . |
Unfortunately silver plated horns rarely hit the B stock shelf and any 907's at shows don't last long. If I have one come up I'll shoot you a message.
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Well the 907DLX last a little over a day on the store. Also, I do have another X-13 satin lacquer that will be going up soon. This one has some small surface pits on the bell seam in the bend of the crook. It should be live in a day or two.
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I've heard some good things about that horn. (Not the sort of things one hears normally about any horn with "student" in the name)
I am curious what seamless fabrication method is used for the bell. I'm not sure how one would control the multiple metals in an electroforming approach, and I have not heard of anyone using explosives since Olds shut down in 1979. Is this a hydraulically formed bell? (one of my favorite technologies actually)
20% off (relative to WWBW) for just a scratch is a fantastic deal.
(Got my fingers crossed for a scratched Proteus one of these days!)
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The REVERB listing is a little messed-up - the 'specs' section has it as a bass t-bone.
It looks like a very good deal on a nice trumpet.
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The seamless bells on our student trumpets and cornets are actually made from a single piece of tubing. That is drawn/pushed several times to form a cone shape that is then spun into a bell shaped blank. From there they can be spun on to shape like any other bell.
The process was originally developed in partnership with a metal forming company nearby years ago as an alternative to hand hammered sheet bells. The thought was that if a lateral stem was better than a radial one, no seam would be best. Unfortunately, that thought didn’t take into account the tempering and metal work that actually makes a sheet bell better. Fortunately, the end result was a very uniform bell that was not only sturdy, but also extremely consistent. It lacked the character and color spectrum of a more traditional bell, but they were easy to play with a clean/clear tone, could hold up to mistreatment, and were less expensive to produce. Making them perfect from a student instrument.
We used them on the 300/400 Series, the 700SP Special trumpet, and the original M2003 field trumpets. At points we experimented with them on upper level horns as well with little success. We could temper and heat treat them with good results, but at that point it was less labor to just make a 2 piece or sheet bell. I’m pretty sure they attempted to make a trombone bell too but couldn’t get it to work without the flares splitting.
And if I get a B stock Proteus, you’ll be my first call.
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| JayKosta wrote: | The REVERB listing is a little messed-up - the 'specs' section has it as a bass t-bone.
It looks like a very good deal on a nice trumpet. |
Apparently, Reverb did me a favor by “correcting” the category for me from Trumpet to Trombone. I have to submit a request to have it changed back. They are reviewing it. 
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I have another horn going up on Reverb soon. I'm trying to do them as they come up rather than saving them up and releasing them in batches again.
The new one is a brand new 907DLX in lacquer that just came through yesterday. It made it all the way to the end of the line before the bell was dented on the underside between the rim and flare seam. Not sure how it happened exactly, but it did prompt another lecture on the importance of material handling.
I'm hoping to get pictures taken this morning and get it up today. Considering how quickly the X-13's and 907DLX's move (both typically last less than a day) I wanted to give everyone here the heads up.
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A little heads up for anyone following this thread. Yesterday I got another oops delivered to my office. A brand new, silver plated 907DLX. This one has some scratches on the bell near the crook. Not as light as the 490 I have up, but still just on the surface of the silver plating. A frustrating reminder to not wear rings or bulky metal watches when handling a brand new trumpet. 
I’m hoping to get it listed on Reverb tomorrow, right after a supervisor meeting about the importance of taking off your chain mail while in the factory.
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| Getzen wrote: | | I’m hoping to get it listed on Reverb tomorrow, right after a supervisor meeting about the importance of taking off your chain mail while in the factory. |
Sorry to hear about the ongoing challenge - I can sympathize: you would not believe how hard it can be to convince people working around systems or in battery packs, operating at several times the voltage in your wall outlet, where a dangling bracelet can amputate a hand in a flash (pun intended), to take off jewelry.
The current millennial workforce seems to have never learned two key truths.
The first is that, despite what was said by a Congresswoman on the Capitol steps a few years ago, even if "The Squad" took over tomorrow, the US Congress cannot repeal the laws of physics. "Personal expression" or no, that textured 18K ring with diamonds is still going to cut right through silver plating (and the brass beyond...)
The second is that a company pays for having a job done, not for being present. When you are paid for your time, you have to do what the company is paying for, how the company specifies, to be "entitled to a wage". If the trumpets decide to play Wagner while the Symphony is playing Beethoven, the trumpets are not getting paid.
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| I scored the carbon fiber case you jut put up. WOW ! No buyer's remorse here. I LOVE it when the product shows up "better than advertised" ! Thank you Getzen ! |
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| OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | Getzen wrote: | | I’m hoping to get it listed on Reverb tomorrow, right after a supervisor meeting about the importance of taking off your chain mail while in the factory. |
Sorry to hear about the ongoing challenge - I can sympathize: you would not believe how hard it can be to convince people working around systems or in battery packs, operating at several times the voltage in your wall outlet, where a dangling bracelet can amputate a hand in a flash (pun intended), to take off jewelry.
The current millennial workforce seems to have never learned two key truths.
The first is that, despite what was said by a Congresswoman on the Capitol steps a few years ago, even if "The Squad" took over tomorrow, the US Congress cannot repeal the laws of physics. "Personal expression" or no, that textured 18K ring with diamonds is still going to cut right through silver plating (and the brass beyond...)
The second is that a company pays for having a job done, not for being present. When you are paid for your time, you have to do what the company is paying for, how the company specifies, to be "entitled to a wage". If the trumpets decide to play Wagner while the Symphony is playing Beethoven, the trumpets are not getting paid. |
Can we not have even one website without uninformed diatribes about politics and sweeping generalizations of generations?
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Two things.
First, this is by no means a generational issue. People of any age or experience level from time to time have "oops" moments. It happens. In my time in the factory I have screwed up more than a few things. Nature of the work. What makes it really frustrating for me is when something has gone through 5 sets of hands before a problem is found. There is no way of knowing for sure who made the mistake or how it happened. I am not going to assign blame without being able to prove it. So everyone gets the reminder and we move on. Our instruments are hand crafted by actual people. The same thing that makes them play the way they do is what leads to imperfections.
Second, I feel like I have to let everyone know not to bother looking for this trumpet on Reverb. One of our fellow TH members jumped on it before I even had a chance to get it listed. The Deluxes tend to sell fast, but that is a new record.
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