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jhahntpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 676 Location: Southington CT
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:23 am Post subject: |
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I mean, the Yamaha pieces are *fine* sure.
But I'll continue to play what I feel best on, and right now that's Monette Unity! _________________ Bb: Yamaha 9335NY Gen3
Bb: Yamaha 8310Z
C: Shires 4S/W1B
Piccolo: Yamaha 9830
Flugel: Yamaha 8315G
Cornet: York Eminence |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:05 am Post subject: |
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The Yammies’s are probably for a lot of people too ‘common’ though there are famous players who play the Yamaha mouthpieces (James Morrison, Hans Gansch). And for the legit orchestral players there are big sizes, 16, 17, 18.
But I can understand that orchestral top players have special wishes which may need custom made mouthpieces.
For the people who think Yamaha is too common (also valid for Bach) I hope that they find comfort in the expensive brands, possibly a 400+ dollar mouthpiece gives more confidence than a cheap Yammie. And even if it is just a psychological thing, who cares?
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jvf1095 Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Posts: 337
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:38 am Post subject: |
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The hunt for the "perfect" mouthpiece sometimes is never ending. But most times, a "Cadillac" gets you where you want to go, no better than a "Chevy." |
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Josephtriscari Regular Member
Joined: 06 Jul 2022 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting post! I once years ago had bags of mouthpieces…
My favorite is Bob Reeves… I don’t see anyone mentioning Reeves…
Is the opinion of most of the players on this post is that the newer makers are better quality etc…?
Joe Triscari _________________ Benge Trumpet
Reeves mouthpieces |
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Rogerrr Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2020 Posts: 144 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is music to my ears.
I just bought a '67 Olds Ambassador on an impulse and need mouthpieces for it...didn't wanna go on a long mouthpiece safari...just wanted to get a yamaha mouthpiece or two that's similar to a Bach 3C....maybe a little darker
Soooo it's nice to hear that the 14C4 & 14D4 are the mouthpieces blessed by the trumpet gods...since that's exactly what I wanted _________________ Sax player learning cornet & trumpet...and occasionally a little bit of trombone.
( so don't confuse me with an experienced player ) |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to disappoint you but Yamaha does not produce a 14C or 14D for cornet.
In fact it seems that they mainly produce the bigger sized cornet mouthpieces for piccolo trumpets.
For a cheap 3C long shank cornet mouthpiece I can advise you the A&s or for some more bucks the Josef Klier 3C.
Yamaha produces a real deep cornet mouthpiece, the 14E but that is short shank (no problem on an Ambassador) but is dark, close to the British Brassband sound. Excellent mouthpiece BTW. |
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Rogerrr Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2020 Posts: 144 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm talking about trumpet this time...
Couldn't resist a cheap trumpet _________________ Sax player learning cornet & trumpet...and occasionally a little bit of trombone.
( so don't confuse me with an experienced player ) |
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Strobe Regular Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2019 Posts: 35 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Josephtriscari wrote: | Interesting post! I once years ago had bags of mouthpieces…
My favorite is Bob Reeves… I don’t see anyone mentioning Reeves…
Is the opinion of most of the players on this post is that the newer makers are better quality etc…?
Joe Triscari |
Not sure about the new Reeves MP's but I use the vintage Purviance mouthpieces (which Reeves now offers although with slight differences)and love them. Have about 20 MP's and always go back to Purviance. _________________ Martin Committee Deluxe '52
Martin Troubadour '35
Bach Strad 37 ' 82
Bach Hybrid 239
Olds Super Recording ''40's
King Cleveland ''76 (My First)
Olds Super Cornet ' '59
Boston 3 Star Cornet 1912
King Silvertone Cornet '35 |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Why is it relevant to mention Reeves in a thread about Yamaha? |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9027 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Same here. I have been using Reeves and Purviancs for decades. John Mohan, a professional who drops in here from time, uses Reeves, also. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Great, keep using them. And fine that you could find backup by a real professional. Hopefully it will give you some certainty. |
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annvill Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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After a year of trying something like forty mouthpieces, I returned to my Bach 3c (last generation). Money thrown away, Now I will have to resell them. |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2014 Posts: 832 Location: Mason, OH
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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annvill wrote: | After a year of trying something like forty mouthpieces, I returned to my Bach 3c (last generation). Money thrown away, Now I will have to resell them. |
Ahhhhhhhh, but that's where the Fun begins ! Sell / trade ... buy more with the money you make selling. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9027 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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To Delano's point, though, stock mouthpieces can be quite good.
I just got a Schilke 9 and it's the most comfortable mouthpiece I've played, and I've got a bunch of "designer mouthpieces". I can't say if it will eventually be my go-to mouthpiece because of qualities beyond comfort. But I think the best legit sound I ever had was on a Schilke 11 and I played that for a long time, so . . .
I've also recently picked up a Bach 6, not as comfortable (but certainly not uncomfortable).as the Schilke.
I guess the discerning reader can read "mouthpiece safari" between my lines because I also just got a Donat.
But my point is that I could easily live with the Stock Bach or Schilke if I had to and these mouthpieces shouldn't be dismissed because they're relatively inexpensive and commonly available. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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enrico Regular Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2021 Posts: 33
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I ask Delano what he thinks of the Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz (no lead), in general and also compared to other similar mouthpieces. |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:42 am Post subject: |
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enrico wrote: | I ask Delano what he thinks of the Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz (no lead), in general and also compared to other similar mouthpieces. |
Sorry, you asked this earlier, I didn’t notice.
But I’m sorry, though I played a lot of Yamaha mouthpieces I never played the Bobby Shew pieces. |
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ENINCA Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 185 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:32 am Post subject: |
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enrico wrote: | I ask Delano what he thinks of the Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz (no lead), in general and also compared to other similar mouthpieces. |
I have that mouthpiece and I like it a lot. Nice dark tone and a very comfortable rim. It's not my current main MP, but I'm not selling it, either. _________________ "Some days you get up and put the horn to your chops and it sounds pretty good and you win. Some days you try and nothing works and the horn wins. This goes on and on and then you die and the horn wins." -Dizzy Gillespie |
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 2158 Location: Little Elm, TX
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I've only played on Warburton 4 rims since about 1990, and while I'm not averse to trying other pieces, I'd prefer the rim matches my pre-fire Warburtons. I had one of them threaded onto a Stomvi Flex mouthpiece that I use with one of my trumpets, but I use stock Warburtons on all of my other horns and I'm very happy with how they feel and play. Selling all of my cast-off mouthpieces (assorted Bach, Giardinelli, Schilke, and custom Marcinkiewicz pieces) helped pay for one of my horns.
For now, my safari has ended. Brand loyalty, force of habit, or just an empty bank account? _________________ Bryan Fields
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1991 Bach LR180 ML 37S
1999 Getzen Eterna 700S
1977 Getzen Eterna 895S Flugelhorn
1969 Getzen Capri cornet
1995 UMI Benge 4PSP piccolo trumpet
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9027 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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And by contrast, I have it and never use it. It's just a hard and fast rule that you have to play it yourself. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
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enrico Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:01 am Post subject: |
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ENINCA wrote: | enrico wrote: | I ask Delano what he thinks of the Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz (no lead), in general and also compared to other similar mouthpieces. |
I have that mouthpiece and I like it a lot. Nice dark tone and a very comfortable rim. It's not my current main MP, but I'm not selling it, either. |
Dark sound??????????????? |
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