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kehaulani Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:43 am Post subject: Josh Landress and work ethic |
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Josh Landress has a serious case of work-ethic.
He's got a horn of mine in for some other work, but when I asked him how much it would cost to relacquer it, he said that I should leave it like it is. What?
In this day and age of up-selling you with stuff you don't need, when confronted with a choice of a thousand -plus dollar work on a horn that really didn't need it or leaving it alone, he chose the latter. That's some very impressive integrity.
Dude, you are always going to get my work. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I think the thread title and the first sentence of the original post would benefit from re-writing. The first impression from both is negative, rather than positive. Only after re-reading of the post, the true intent becomes clear. Wording matters.
Suggested title: "Superb work ethics - Josh Landress". |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12333 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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etc-etc wrote: | I think the thread title and the first sentence of the original post would benefit from re-writing. The first impression from both is negative, rather than positive. Only after re-reading of the post, the true intent becomes clear. Wording matters.
Suggested title: "Superb work ethics - Josh Landress". |
Actually when I read the title I knew the thread was going to be about Josh’s great work ethic. I guess someone could interpret it otherwise. 🤷♂️ |
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SilverSpunk Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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etc-etc wrote: | I think the thread title and the first sentence of the original post would benefit from re-writing. The first impression from both is negative, rather than positive. Only after re-reading of the post, the true intent becomes clear. Wording matters.
Suggested title: "Superb work ethics - Josh Landress". |
Ultimate work ethic* I fixed it for you. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 8003 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Let's see. I never knew "work-ethic" was a negative phrase. Learn something new every day. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Let's see. I never knew "work-ethic" was a negative phrase. Learn something new every day. |
Work ethic is neither positive nor negative, no?
Adding an adjective can make it negative or positive. And in this case so can the reader’s biases. |
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LaTrompeta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I would rename the thread "Josh Landress HAS work ethic!"
Using the conjunction "and" appears, at least to me, at first glance, to be presenting an "issue." _________________ Please join me as well at:
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yourbrass Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I often advise people not to go farther with the work. A new coat of lacquer requires a lot of preparation, and is not always the best idea.
Mr. Landress is right, based on his considered opinion. _________________ "Strive for tone." -John Coppola
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
"work ethic
noun
: a belief in work as a moral good : a set of values centered on the importance of doing work and reflected especially in a desire or determination to work hard."
It is a stand-alone phrase. Positive. Without qualification.
The reason for the post is to compliment Josh and give him a shout-out to anyone who might need some work sometime.
e _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
Benge 3X LA
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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LittleRusty wrote: | etc-etc wrote: | I think the thread title and the first sentence of the original post would benefit from re-writing. The first impression from both is negative, rather than positive. Only after re-reading of the post, the true intent becomes clear. Wording matters.
Suggested title: "Superb work ethics - Josh Landress". |
Actually when I read the title I knew the thread was going to be about Josh’s great work ethic. I guess someone could interpret it otherwise. 🤷♂️ |
Same here. From the title, I knew it was going to be a positive post.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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Daniel Barenboim Veteran Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Re-laquering is nasty business. not surprised he doesn't want to do it.
DB |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
"work ethic
noun
: a belief in work as a moral good : a set of values centered on the importance of doing work and reflected especially in a desire or determination to work hard."
It is a stand-alone phrase. Positive. Without qualification.
The reason for the post is to compliment Josh and give him a shout-out to anyone who might need some work sometime.
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Huh. Good thing I didn’t state my opinion unqualified.  |
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mr oakmount Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have always found that people who care about their art will talk you out of unnecessary work and expenses.
My first contact with the present trumpet builder/repair tech of my trust - hello Mr Fehrer - came about when I thought that only custom leadpipes would address the intonation problems with my C-trumpets. I knew he had done that job for my former trumpet teacher with great success.
So he takes a long look at my rotary C-trumpet and wonders to himself if a little more weight at the valve block might fix the problem. Goes to the lathe and makes two round shims with a hole in the centre to fit perfectly underneath the valve cap of the first and second rotor. See, the problem was not that the c in the staff and the g on top of the staff were too sharp, they just did not "lock" tightly and I had bent them sharp. Problem one solved.
Then he takes a look at the Bach and starts measuring. Says he is not happy with the gap and the weight distribution at the front end. Gets one of his custom made mouthpiece receivers with adjustable gap. Solders it onto the original leadpipe. Problem two solved.
See, he had a drawer full of custom leadpipes ready, but he thought it was not necessary to go this far. His improvements cost me a fraction of what I would have been perfectly willing to pay for. His reasoning was, "If you are happy with the sound and the way your instrument plays, you want as little surgery to it as you can get away with." |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Is it Work-Ethic or just honesty and integrity? _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Back to the subject matter, +1. I only met Josh once but he went way over and above with my older horn. He loves what he does, he cares, and it shows. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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AndyDavids Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:01 am Post subject: |
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theslawdawg wrote: | Is it Work-Ethic or just honesty and integrity? | This...and I would also guess that maybe the value of the horn didn't warrant it? |
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Daniel Barenboim Veteran Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:11 am Post subject: |
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From what I've heard about laquering, I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy! I know Charlie Melk still does it.
DB |
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I believe the words you are searching for are honor and integrity! I am fortunate enough to have a man of equal character here in Indianapolis. His name is Bob Frost! _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
Arranger/Composer; Lilly Music |
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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LaTrompeta wrote: | I would rename the thread "Josh Landress HAS work ethic!"
Using the conjunction "and" appears, at least to me, at first glance, to be presenting an "issue." |
Exactly - use of the conjunction shifts the intended meaning. |
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Gosh, guys. Sometimes you have to read more than the title to get the meaning of the title. Or is this generation in too big a hurry to do that? _________________ Craig. |
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