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OtherJMitch Regular Member
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 4:03 pm Post subject: Trumpet Schools in the Southeast |
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Hey y’all. I’m a rising junior, and it’s getting time to start looking at colleges… I want to major in music performance, mostly leaning on the classical side. I’ve been trying hard to find colleges in the southeast, really in and around Georgia. Any advice on what schools are currently great for trumpet players? _________________ “Words make you think thoughts. Music makes you feel feelings. Songs make you feel thoughts.”
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ProAm Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Isn’t Phil Smith still at UGA?? If you have the talent, he sure has the experience to impart. |
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BudBix Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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ProAm wrote: | Isn’t Phil Smith still at UGA?? If you have the talent, he sure has the experience to impart. |
+1
Also check out Kennesaw State. I think Mike Tiscione of Atlanta Symphony teaches there. Also Doug Lindsey is there and great I hear. |
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nltrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Posts: 206 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Aaron Jensen just accepted a position at Columbus State University for next year. Fantastic player, trumpet teacher, and person. Get a lesson with him once he gets settled over there! |
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mafields627 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:40 am Post subject: |
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ProAm wrote: | Isn’t Phil Smith still at UGA?? If you have the talent, he sure has the experience to impart. |
Do undergrads have access to Phil or do they study with a grad student?
FWIW, if you want to get away from home, check out the University of Alabama (my alma mater). There's a lot of good stuff happening in that studio. _________________ --Matt--
No representation is made that the quality of this post is greater than the quality of that of any other poster. Oh, and get a teacher! |
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Jon Kaplan Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 300 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:27 am Post subject: |
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mafields627 wrote: | ProAm wrote: | Isn’t Phil Smith still at UGA?? If you have the talent, he sure has the experience to impart. |
Do undergrads have access to Phil or do they study with a grad student?
FWIW, if you want to get away from home, check out the University of Alabama (my alma mater). There's a lot of good stuff happening in that studio. |
Yes, some undergrads do study directly with Phil - and if they don’t, they probably take lessons from the other full time professor there, Brandon Craswell, and would probably see Phil in studio classes and the Brass Rep class he teaches there. _________________ 2nd Trumpet, Charlotte Symphony Orchestra
2nd Trumpet, Central City Opera Orchestra |
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 5:45 am Post subject: Re: Trumpet Schools in the Southeast |
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OtherJMitch wrote: | Hey y’all. I’m a rising junior, and it’s getting time to start looking at colleges… I want to major in music performance, mostly leaning on the classical side. I’ve been trying hard to find colleges in the southeast, really in and around Georgia. Any advice on what schools are currently great for trumpet players? |
What is your goal with this degree? _________________ Bill Bergren |
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Michael Arndt Regular Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 8:19 am Post subject: |
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We would be happy to talk to you at Middle Tennessee. It might not be the first place people think of, but we have a killer program and graduates doing big things. Our location next to Nashville makes for a lot of opportunities to listen and play. We have some very unique opportunities for undergrads. We also have a trumpet player as the director of Jazz Studies, Jamey Simmons. And I do my best not to screw anyone up too much. Best wishes in your search for the right fit. _________________ Michael Arndt
Middle Tennessee State University
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 9:04 am Post subject: |
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A word about Nashville. It calls up images of The Grand Ole Opry and Country music in general. Don't be deceived.
I was on Nashville Now and listened to other groups which, while in C&W, played very well. But here's the thing. During a break in the show, some of the musicians were jamming and it was Jazz. And they smoked. I later met other Nashville musicians who played in the Country scene but who were very good Jazz players.
This doesn't address the legit scene but for those considering Jazz and Commercial music, Nashville should definitely not be ignored.
An aside, unless you're independently wealthy, consider the opportunities for scholarships and other sources financial assistance and that some schools are not as expensive to begin with. When I attended UNT, out-of-state tuition was the same as in-state tuition at the Univ. of Hawai`i (where I transferred from). _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Trptbenge Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 11:46 am Post subject: |
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There are a lot of fine schools. All that have been mentioned are really good.
I attended a clinic done by Doug Lindsey at Kenesaw State and he is excellent. _________________ It's the sound that makes the difference! |
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BudBix Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:26 am Post subject: |
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I just heard Doug Linsey is moving to University of Oklahoma and Mike Tisicione bio on ASO's site says he is an adjunct at Kennesaw. |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2655 Location: Anacortes, WA
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Trumpet Schools in the Southeast |
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Billy B wrote: | OtherJMitch wrote: | Hey y’all. I’m a rising junior, and it’s getting time to start looking at colleges… I want to major in music performance, mostly leaning on the classical side. I’ve been trying hard to find colleges in the southeast, really in and around Georgia. Any advice on what schools are currently great for trumpet players? |
What is your goal with this degree? |
And how are you going to pay for it? What is your budget? _________________ Richard
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HD8353 New Member
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I just finished that whole process you're just now starting on, and decided on going to East Carolina University starting this fall. The trumpet professor is Gabriel DiMartino and he's an amazing classical player and teacher. I highly recommend looking him up or emailing him if you're interested. It might be a little too far, but it's worth reaching out. |
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Forte Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Trumpet Schools in the Southeast |
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Richard III wrote: | Billy B wrote: | OtherJMitch wrote: | Hey y’all. I’m a rising junior, and it’s getting time to start looking at colleges… I want to major in music performance, mostly leaning on the classical side. I’ve been trying hard to find colleges in the southeast, really in and around Georgia. Any advice on what schools are currently great for trumpet players? |
What is your goal with this degree? |
And how are you going to pay for it? What is your budget? |
Hi Richard,
Curious how you funded your euphonium purchase. Do you have a mortgage or do you rent? What is your credit card debt balance? Have you had a recent credit score? Married/Single?
Thanks _________________ If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9033 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 11:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm not quite sure I understand the purpose of that post but, generally, financing an education these days has a myriad of options and such advice may be helpful for a prospective student.
Sometime when we're young and inexperienced, there may be factors we are not aware of and it can be helpful for those "who have gone before" to share their experience.
If the OP doesn't need any help or advice along those lines, no harm done. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Steve A Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 1808 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think that ambitious high schoolers too often prioritize getting into the "best" (as in, most highly regarded) school above all else, which can often be a recipe for heartache when all is said and done. A couple of considerations - many schools with big name teachers don't actually give those studio spots to undergrads, in which case the value of the big name teacher to any given undergrad may be meaningfully reduced.
Also, the best choice of school really depends on what the student needs to reach their potential. In my experience, many star players that everyone knows and want to emulate were already basically stars when they reached college, and are best at teaching other people who already have things figured out to an uncommonly high degree, but aren't necessarily as adept at helping people who need help figuring some aspects of their playing out. Similarly, there are a meaningful number of teachers who aren't necessarily household names, but have real skill at making sure all their students leave their degrees with rock solid fundamentals. Honestly, I think most people would be much better served by finding one of the second category of teachers, rather than the first, but unfortunately, this is the kind of lesson people tend to learn the hard way.
Finally, probably well over 95% of music grads struggle to make enough money in their field simply to survive in the first 3-5 years after graduating, to say nothing of paying back sizeable student loans. Even many of the very best, from the very best schools are frequently pushed out of this profession simply because they can't make enough money to survive and to pay their loans back playing their instruments. Taking on significant debt to fund a music degree is a very high risk proposition. The best school might be the one that offers you a big enough scholarship that you're not drowning in debt at the end.
Bottom line - some serious soul searching about what you really need, what you've got going for you, and what you want to get out of school are all critically important to coming out of this experience happy with your choices. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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That's true to an extent but I don't think it should be a distraction or exaggerated. I've always followed the adage, "Do what you love and the money will follow". I've changed musical directions like a chameleon but I've kept it all within the music profession, full time for a lifetime. Go for it, _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Trumpet Schools in the Southeast |
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Forte wrote: | Richard III wrote: | Billy B wrote: | OtherJMitch wrote: | Hey y’all. I’m a rising junior, and it’s getting time to start looking at colleges… I want to major in music performance, mostly leaning on the classical side. I’ve been trying hard to find colleges in the southeast, really in and around Georgia. Any advice on what schools are currently great for trumpet players? |
What is your goal with this degree? |
And how are you going to pay for it? What is your budget? |
Hi Richard,
Curious how you funded your euphonium purchase. Do you have a mortgage or do you rent? What is your credit card debt balance? Have you had a recent credit score? Married/Single?
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I love these discussions.
When deciding on what to purchase or where to attend college, it is useful to weed out options that are too expensive. Either tuition and fees are too much, or the cost of living in that area is too much. How much is too much? You have to decide if borrowing makes sense.
My opinion is that borrowing rarely makes sense unless the future job is so lucrative that paying off that debt is possible. For most careers, borrowing is creating an onerous life with no end in site.
So knowing what one's budget is is very useful. Of course if the parents are rich and you can afford anywhere to go to college, well then all of them are on the table. _________________ Richard
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I should add that when I was in high school, I envisioned a romantic life playing jazz in smokey little clubs all my life. Well, reality hit me in college when I realized that was a lousy way to make a living. Then I thought maybe I should be teaching. Well, those jobs were going away. So also a bad choice. Time to get real and following my passion is simply not workable. Time to prepare for a real job with a future. Plus I just wasn't a good enough player to make it in the business. I saw much better players also failing. _________________ Richard
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