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breosbourn13 New Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2023 Posts: 1 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:53 am Post subject: mouthpiece help for student range |
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Hello. I have a student who has very full lips and she was doing ok on developing her lead chops....and then she got braces in December.
Suggestions on how a mouthpiece I can use to help her with this? And I am not one of those teachers that thinks anyone can be fine on any mouthpiece if they have solid control of air and buzz. She's a kid and she is learning how to develop and everyone's face is unique and needs the right fit just like you need the right fit of shoes.
Thank you in advance. _________________ Bre O |
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BRSpringer Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 115 Location: Lee's Summit, MO
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:44 am Post subject: |
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I have found in my 38 years of private teaching that many of my students with braces benefit when switching to a larger diameter, like from a 7C to a 5c or a 3c. It usually puts the rim on a more comfortable spot than before. However, like you said, everyone is different.
The main thing about playing with braces is that the student has to learn to play with less pressure and rely more on the proper delivery of the air.
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1833 Location: Terre Haute, IN USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Kelly Pro - under $30. Large but not too large rim ID - not too much undercut - cup gives some zing to the sound. A forgiving rim. Speaks quickly. It's inexpensive and plastic - you could actually take a file to it and custom shape the rim. (I've turned Kellys into DIY Wedges and Neill Sanders rims. It's a pain - I don't recommend it - but it can be done.)
Bach 3CW - not the 3C - totally different mouthpiece. The 3CW has a forgiving rim - not much undercut and a lot of zing to the sound. If you look at a scan you would think it to be a mellow cornet mouthiece. It is not. I think the Kelly Pro must have been inspired by this mpc.
After that - the Marcinkiewicz 300 series mouthpieces - they feel larger than a Bach 3C but smaller than the 3CW. Nice rim - you might start with the 308.
While rim shape helps , you also need a mouthpiece that speaks quickly with zing to encourage less pressure. |
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3310 Location: Endwell NY USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:14 am Post subject: Re: mouthpiece help for student range |
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breosbourn13 wrote: | ... was doing ok on developing her lead chops....and then she got braces in December. ... |
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Perhaps rethink the suitability for 'lead chops'. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9033 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I go with the Kellys, too. Need a different size/model and you can afford to experiment. I would take a look at the Screamer. too, if you're looking for a lead mpc. (although for a kid, I personally do not go for shallow mouthpieces),
Take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCqh5ROtQRgBTW, _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn |
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