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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:01 am    Post subject: "I call this balance; others may call it embouchure.&qu Reply with quote

Those of you who are more familiar with Caruso than I am, I'm interested in your thoughts on his use of the word balance. How literally should we take his meaning?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW there is a dedicated Caruso sub-forum where you may get more Caruso-specific answers.

I've always taken the phrase to be a callout to the fact that trumpet playing is not a purely muscular/strength-based endeavor. Caruso exercises are intended to teach the player where the notes are on the horn and you end up understanding the appropriate balance of air/strength/whatever to get the note to sound as you need to.

Your mileage will vary
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does substituting the word 'coordination' or 'coordinate' for 'balance' of any value?

'balance' might be thought of as meaning 'equal amounts', where 'coordinated' might be 'in appropriate amounts'.

It would be helpful if you could provide an example of how 'balance' was used.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The quote was directly from the first exercise in the Carouso book. I am thinking that balance literally refers to the balance between pressure on the left side of the face versus pressure on the right side of the face or muscular effort on both sides of the face
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Does substituting the word 'coordination' or 'coordinate' for 'balance' of any value?

'balance' might be thought of as meaning 'equal amounts', where 'coordinated' might be 'in appropriate amounts'.

It would be helpful if you could provide an example of how 'balance' was used.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trpt2honk wrote:
The quote was directly from the first exercise in the Carouso book. I am thinking that balance literally refers to the balance between pressure on the left side of the face versus pressure on the right side of the face or muscular effort on both sides of the face


Definitely does not have to do with distributing pressure - I highly recommend you read through the sticky threads in the Caruso forum.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In part, he used the word balance because the lips are often given disproportionate importance in a playing system that uses hundreds of muscles throughout the body and it is the synchronization of those moving parts that makes for good playing, not only the facial muscles.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I studied on and off with one of Carmine’s success stories for a number of years. I also spent a year or so with Carmine.
I never recall either one using the term balance.
Jay Kosta mentioned the term coordination. While I never heard them use that term, it seems to be more in line with how I view Caruso.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH wrote:
In part, he used the word balance because the lips are often given disproportionate importance in a playing system that uses hundreds of muscles throughout the body and it is the synchronization of those moving parts that makes for good playing, not only the facial muscles.


Whether or not this is what Caruso meant, I wholeheartedly agree with the intention. The body works multiple components in synchronization.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was taught air + vibration = balance. That may be a different way of saying what PH said about "the synchronization of those moving parts that makes for good playing, not only the facial muscles."
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