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Type3B Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:04 pm Post subject: Hetman Light Tuning Slide Oil #4 |
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This is the only I've product I've found that lubricates my 1st and 3rd slides the way I like them. I'm at the end of my supply, and can't find it anywhere except from Canada, Australia, etc., with exorbitant shipping charges. Does anyone know where I can find it in the U.S., or another product that is pretty much like this one? Thanks! _________________ 2006 Buick Lucerne |
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Shifty Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2013 Posts: 250 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yamaha only advertises one slide oil, but it sounds about like Hetman #4. I haven't tried it, but their valve oils are pretty much identical to Hetmans.
"Yamaha synthetic tuning slide oil is a proprietary blend that's ideal for any slides that need to move quickly and easily, such as the 1st and 3rd slides on a trumpet. An added corrosion inhibitor gives extra protection to the instrument's metal." _________________ Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
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abontrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I was also told that Yamaha oils are close/identical to Hetmans at some point. So Shifty is probably providing the best "identical" replacement.
But, I do enjoy Monster Oils 100% Plant based oils and they have a slide oil that I use and enjoy.
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2416 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I also use #4 for certain tasks.
Like other suggested, if/when the "Hetman well" runs dry, I'll be moving over to Yamaha.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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Type3B Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2016 Posts: 108 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, everyone. That sounds like the right move! _________________ 2006 Buick Lucerne |
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MrOlds Heavyweight Member
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Have you tried directly e-mailing some of the german brass shops (like say, Musikhaus Beck)? Hetman's is still produced afik and they may have some available even if it's not listed. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9033 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:28 am Post subject: |
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When you guys say "slide oil", do you mean trombone slide oil or trumpet tuning slide oil? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2416 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:07 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | When you guys say "slide oil", do you mean trombone slide oil or trumpet tuning slide oil? |
Trumpet slide.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Mike. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Hetman Light Tuning Slide Oil #4 |
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Type3B wrote: | This is the only I've product I've found that lubricates my 1st and 3rd slides the way I like them. |
Have you tried horn rotor oil? I long since gave up on normal slide lubricants that are commonly used, or the old 'cut it with valve oil' trick... ast least for 1st/3rd adjustment slides. I use normal stuff on 2nd and the tuning slide, and haven't looked back.
very cheap to try it out, too. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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Divitt Trumpets Heavyweight Member
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Funny, everyone was searching for Hetman oil a year ago, and then it became available (although I don't know about #4; I use #1, #11, and #14).
In a pinch, I put Vaseline on my 1st and 3rd valve (what I learned over 60 years ago) and then cut it with Hetman #11. Works well. _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Divitt Trumpets wrote: | Rotor oil isn't thick enough for 1st and 3rd slides. |
Odd, since I've been using it for many years with no difficulties. To each their own. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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scottfsmith Veteran Member
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