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tptLad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:45 pm    Post subject: Flutter/Growling Reply with quote

Hello!
Wondering how one would flutter tongue/growl for they can't roll their Rs?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Flutter/Growling Reply with quote

tptLad wrote:
Hello!
Wondering how one would flutter tongue/growl for they can't roll their Rs?


Flutter tongue and growl are two separate things but are often confused, conflated, and interchanged for each other — just ask the internet experts. ◄ sarcasm

They (growl and flutter) can be done at the same time

And, there is more than one type of (way to) growl.

—Denny


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, two separate and distinctive effects.

Flutter Tongue is the tip of the tongue rapidly bouncing off the air stream. I've only known a few players that learned to do this if they couldn't do it "naturally" It involved a lot of practicing it off the trumpet - practicing/experimenting throughout the day. Blowing (like whistling, and experimenting with tip of tongue position and tension). "T" position from the end of the word "hot" - inhale "ho", exhale "tooooo".
Flutter tonguing is also a good practice aid, for getting air to flow through lines - Practicing all slurred, fluttered, then as written can help clean up those challenging passages.

Growling is a vocal effect, having the vocal chords vibrating a mid-range grunt (a guttural sound) while playing the trumpet.. I don't think it's a hum - Humming to me pushes sound up into the sinus cavity - this doesn't work as well for me. With a plunger creates a real aggressive sound - I find a plunger adds resistance/compression amplifying the effect.

Fun to have both going at the same time - moves a lot of air.

One can also hum specific pitches while playing, getting two or more tones (hum one note play a different one), especially on larger instruments - for me sometimes on flugel, much more apparent on Trombone. (note that my voice is in the Bass range-even my falsetto is at the low end of the trumpet - vocal range has an impact/relationship)

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