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Robson
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riojazz wrote:
I enjoyed that thoroughly. I hope you license that design to get some built.


I have no idea how it works, but I'll search about it

Thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halflip wrote:
Very nice playing; the way you worked out how to properly exploit your special instrument is impressive.

It would appear that you've developed the Yma Sumac of flugelhorns!



Yma Sumac?! Wow hahahahaha

I was crazy to play in the low register using the flugelhorn, but I had intonation problems on my previous horn. I had a Courtois and intonation on the regular range was nice, but it was terrible below F#.

Now I know that it wasn't a bad flugelhorn... not at all! But any 4 valve instrument has the same intonation problems, and I'm not very good lipping the notes, at least notes that are super out of tune, like on the 4 valve flugelhorn

Now, some pictures of the flugelhorn






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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question: is this a screw bell conversion?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitvalve wrote:
That is really cool! Turning a flugelhorn into a tuba...maybe you could call it a fluba.


A flugelhorn is a soprano tuba anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brassnose wrote:
Another question: is this a screw bell conversion?


Yes! I made the project of this screw ring and Doug Meeuwsen did a incredible job with the lathe. He's a member here: Lipshurt
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This horn has also become a good advertisement for Saturn water keys!

[I have only one on mine]
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice playing! You always sound superb:)

Nice job putting the ring on the bell too:)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nicely in tune and what a fantastic performance!
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Robson
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riojazz wrote:
This horn has also become a good advertisement for Saturn water keys!

[I have only one on mine]


Hahahahaha

I really like them! Very easy to maintain and almost unbreakable!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lipshurt wrote:
Nice playing! You always sound superb:)

Nice job putting the ring on the bell too:)


You are the man, Doug!

Thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pictures of my flugelhorn case







It's almost unbelievable that a huge flugelhorn can fit on a regular attache case
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: 5 Valve Flugelhorn Reply with quote

Robson wrote:
Hi guys!
Thanks for sharing !!!
I hope you enjoy! This piece was originally written for low horn


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robson wrote:
Halflip wrote:
Very nice playing; the way you worked out how to properly exploit your special instrument is impressive.

It would appear that you've developed the Yma Sumac of flugelhorns!



Yma Sumac?! Wow hahahahaha

I was crazy to play in the low register using the flugelhorn, but I had intonation problems on my previous horn. I had a Courtois and intonation on the regular range was nice, but it was terrible below F#.

Now I know that it wasn't a bad flugelhorn... not at all! But any 4 valve instrument has the same intonation problems, and I'm not very good lipping the notes, at least notes that are super out of tune, like on the 4 valve flugelhorn

Now, some pictures of the flugelhorn







Wow!!! It looking good. I hope it sound great again
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice playing and great horn! I'd love to buy me one of them. Let me know if you ever want to sell it!
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