AR Resonance VS. Lotus

kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:31 am Post subject:

You did no say “ I tried it and I prefer another model for a similar price” , you say “ I would no pay that much for a Yamaha “.

Not even if Yamaha realease a model that you like more than your Thane ?

Is the problem the name written in the valve casing ?

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:44 am Post subject:

kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:05 am Post subject:

Right, I wrote what I wrote cause you said " I would not pay that for A YAMAHA " and that's why I asked " are you sure ANY yamaha that you can buy right now even in the future ? ".

We all have different situations, I could try a yamaha artist model, BUT can not try a Thane, AR, Lotus, or Bohme....
May be if I take the risk of buying any of those I will like it more than the yamaha artist model, or may be not, who knows...

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:37 am Post subject:

kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:50 am Post subject:

Are the Thane custom made ? from my understanding you choose a model of the ones you make, so is not custom for you.

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1286

ericmpena,

How would you compare your Thane Performance to the AR Resonance Feroce? I'm guessing that they both have superb mechanics and playability:

1. slick slides.
2. Meinlschmidt regular piston valves on the Thane (I think was your preference from another TH thread) and Meinlschmidt MAW valves on the AR Feroce.
3. great intonation on both.
4. great tonal profile on both for what you need.
5. great compression.

What about resonance and projection at varied register points and varied dynamics? Is there anything else better for you on one over the other?

HornofPlenty · Veteran Member Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 262

I have an AR Resonance Feroce and a Thane Performance with the classic bell, but I chose the lightweight bell version and lightweight bracing.

I love both trumpets! I have played lead on the Feroce in a few big bands and a Motown/funk band. That horn has a presence! I can hear myself fairly well on this horn. I just feel like subconsciously I do not overblow/use too much pressure that often as I can hear myself well and that big bell just makes my mind think, if I can just play that note/run cleanly, then it will carry across the room, no need to kill myself physically!

The Thane took me a little while to get used to as I think the horn blew slightly tighter than other horns I had owned recently. I love my sound on the Thane. I can play about any type of music on it and sound good. It looks great too! I got custom finger buttons, Saturn keys and a brushed lacquer version.

I go back and forth between these two horns and play out with each of them a lot!

As far as customization on the Thane. He does basically make two models with a lightweight version of each, but I am pretty sure he can tweak a horn to make it more custom, as in possibly a different lead pipe or bell material, etc., but I am not sure.

I have never tried a Lotus!

One little quirk with the AR is that I am finding the screw in gap adapter/receiver bit sometimes loosens a little bit during a gig and I tighten it up once or twice a night. No big deal, but I am thinking of just keeping the number 4 gap screw in receiver bit in the horn and letting it get really "frozen" in the position and not taking it out since it is my favorite of the five screw in "gap" receivers.

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:28 pm Post subject:

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:46 pm Post subject:

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:50 pm Post subject:

kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:02 pm Post subject:

What I mean is, I asked a custom European maker about going to his factory to try horns, so I asked, which bells do you have to try ? And he answered to me, “not even one, you talk with me and based in our conversation and trying may be if I can one or two of my trumpets somebody has near here if he can come, I decide how to make your trumpet “.
So to buy a 3.500 euros raw brass horn, you can not try 4or 5 bells, and then say “ I like something between the 2 and the 3” or 2 or 3 leadpipes, and then he makes it custom for you. You can not do that cause he has nnothing to try.
Of course he makes your horn, and is not going to be bad, I am sure is good, but when you spend 3.500 or 4.000 euros I think that’s not enough and is not how a custom horn should be made.

If I am going to spend that kind of money I want to be able to try different designs.

So are all custom makers really custom ? And, can we try what they make before buying it ? And can we try the different options ?

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1286

kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:12 pm Post subject:

Haha but I am not….

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1286

HornofPlenty · Veteran Member Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 262

Hi Eric,

I have the 5.5" raw bell. The horn is a beast!

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:40 pm Post subject:

EDIT: REMOVED VIDEO. I'LL UPLOAD A HIGHER QUALITY VIDEO IN THIS THREAD.
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kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:07 pm Post subject:

Which mpcs are you using ?

ericmpena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:06 pm Post subject:

kerouack · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:06 pm Post subject:

Why you don’t use an AR mpc with the AR trumpet ? Both would perfectly fit to get the maximum quality from the AR trumpet.