Brand new Bach 1 1/2c - Fake or copy?

Rhondo · Last edited by Rhondo on Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:12 pm; edited 3 times in total

Apologies for a similar thread recently posted, but this one is slightly different.

I received a new, sealed in plastic with box- all Bach graphics mouthpiece imprinted with “VINCENT BACH CORP MT VERNON 1-1/2C”. It seems to be somewhat similar in size and a tad different in feel to my old VINCENT BACH CORP. 5C.

I don’t see any Mt Vernon mouthpieces without ‘NY’ on the Bach loyalist website, but then again there don’t appear to be CORP. (with a dot) versions either, which I believe Bach produced.

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Rhondo · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:09 pm Post subject:

I think it’s possible if it’s fake the seller is unaware, as most of what they sell seem to be garage sale/flea market items unrelated to musical instruments.

abontrumpet · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 1781

Are you asking if it is a fake Mt. Vernon Bach mouthpiece or just a fake Bach mouthpiece? The answer is yes.

Rhondo · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:34 pm Post subject:

I thought I was buying a current Bach 1 1/2c they picked up unopened at a garage sale. Perfect feedback swayed the decision, and why I think the seller may be unaware.

JeffM729 · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:58 pm Post subject:

The box you received was not used until well after Bach moved to Elkhart. I hope you didn’t pay too much. There was an eBay seller in Louisiana selling these a few years back, who sold mostly tools.

Bionx · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:55 am Post subject:

Fake. The printing on that box doesn’t quite look like the ones that come with modern Bach pieces
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Rhondo · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:02 am Post subject:

Rhondo · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:00 pm Post subject:

So, yesterday I reported the item to eBay as fake or a copy with a couple sentences only as their system doesn’t allow more than 100 characters to explain why it’s fake in the report. Received an email awhile ago saying they didn’t find anything that violated their policies… 😜

I also contacted the seller who acted very contrite, and ended up saying he wasn’t aware he had listed the mouthpiece incorrectly. When I said I had no use for the mouthpiece and didn’t want to keep it with a partial refund he was offering, he said he’d contact eBay first thing this morning to ask if they will allow him to refund the item and charge him for a return label for me.

Now it’s afternoon his time and he still has 3 of these mouthpieces listed at the same price, no change in the description, but adding a return option on the listing.

I sent him an email just now asking for him to just refund the item and I don’t need an ebay return label postage to send it back.

Crazy Finn · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm Post subject:

Rhondo · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:22 pm Post subject:

huntman10 · Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:46 am Post subject:

Look at this crappy fake!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/404489270958

Seriously!
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