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davidkoch
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:21 pm    Post subject: The CookieMute Reply with quote

Hi there TH,

I've come out of my hidey-hole to share something I've been working on. It's a new practice mute, the CookieMute.

My main goal creating this mute was to get the blow as close to an open horn as possible while maintaining a stable intonation pattern. While volume and size were secondary concerns to me, these weigh ~110g and only stick out of the bell about as much as a straight mute.

I much prefer to let others hype up products, rather than talking about it myself. However, be assured that if I am attaching my name to this product I believe in it.

(U.S. Sales only for the time being, sorry international friends...)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a really nice mute. Excellent volume reduction, excellent intonation (for a practice mute), and not too tight a blow. It seems very well constructed, fits well in a variety of horns, and isn't so large that packing it is an issue if you are using it on the road.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUPERB mute - I highly recommend this. I don't like practice mutes, but this one I can get behind. It doesn't mess my chops up, plays in tune, and it fits the horn really well!

Best,
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the new mute! Just wondering if there's any significance to the use of the word "cookie"?

Thanks!

Mike
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received my CookieMute in the mail recently as well, and was pleasantly surprised at how "normal" it feels to play with this mute in. It does a good job of reducing the volume, but intonation still feels very similar to the open horn. I will definitely bring mine along next time I'm traveling with my horn.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highly recommended... Cookie don't lie. This thing is great. Not the quietest, but plenty quiet for a hotel room, and the blow is fantastic. Easily the most normal blowing practice mute I've tried (and I own them ALL).

Buy one.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loudog wrote:
Highly recommended... Not the quietest, but plenty quiet for a hotel room, and the blow is fantastic. Easily the most normal blowing practice mute I've tried (and I own them ALL).

Buy one.


After only some brief testing, I concur with Louie. I expect it to work well on multi day trips where I need to use it every day.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patdublc wrote:
loudog wrote:
Highly recommended... Not the quietest, but plenty quiet for a hotel room, and the blow is fantastic. Easily the most normal blowing practice mute I've tried (and I own them ALL).

Buy one.


After only some brief testing, I concur with Louie. I expect it to work well on multi day trips where I need to use it every day.


Can you compare this to the Bremner Shh mute in terms of volume and blow? I've tried most too and the Bremner seems to be a good compromise of free AND quiet
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a video demonstration of one somewhere?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent a real short video to Matt Sonnenborn a few days ago, but it is hardly worth sharing. Maybe Cookie could post something. After all, he's the inventory and an excellent trumpet player.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback, everyone!

A video has been on my to-do list for a little bit, I think I'll try to knock it out today! A couple of people have posted about it on Instagram and/or Facebook - but I know not everyone is on there.


EDIT: here ya go!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrumpetMD wrote:
Congrats on the new mute! Just wondering if there's any significance to the use of the word "cookie"?

Thanks!

Mike


First off, thank you!


My last name is pronounced 'cook'. Naturally Cookie was a nickname that I picked up in my early teens. There was a time when I tried just going by David, but every time I moved (Local public high school, Interlochen Arts Academy, Grand Valley State University, McGill Univeristy/Montreal, Thunder Bay Ontario, etc.) someone knew me from before so the nickname always stuck. In early 2020, I decided to lean into it and make it part of my branding.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you compare this to the Bremner Shh mute in terms of volume and blow?


The Bremner cuts a bit more volume. It sounds like playing into pillows or in a coat closet. I associate that with fewer high frequencies.

The Cookie Mute has a more nasal sound, like an extreme version of a straight mute. That's not a negative, just trying to offer something to compare it to.

Intonation seems to be pretty even on both of them, and they are about equally free blowing.

If you are hitting the road and packability really matters, I'd give a slight advantage to the Bremner mute as it can fit comfortable into an adult-sized shoe. But the Cookie Mute is relatively compact as well and seems quite sturdily constructed, so it should also pack well (just take up a bit more room in the suitcase).

In terms of cost, the Cookie Mute, at $40 (USA) is a real bargain. Plus, it comes in fun colors.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got mine.

The processing and shipping was very quickly done.

The intonation is much better than I expected, and it's certainly not silent but it's a fine volume for practice.

The blow is more open and realistic than a few other practice mutes I've tried.

It fits in each of my horns: a standard Bb, a C, and even a rotary that has a bigger bell.

The orange color won't get lost in my bag!

Although I've only had it a few minutes, I'm happy with my purchase.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone had a chance to compare the CookieMute with the Divitt or the Rejano as far as sound, resistance, or intonation?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Has anyone had a chance to compare the CookieMute with the Divitt or the Rejano as far as sound, resistance, or intonation?


The CookieMute and the Divitt mute both offer good intonation, good sound reduction and a not-too-tight blow. The big difference is that the CookieMute has a nasal straight mute-type sound and the Divitt mute has a buzzier Harmon-mute type sound.

Both are well made, sturdy, stay in place well, and are fairly large. I believe both are $40 USD, which seems like a very fair price for an excellent mute.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adagiotrumpet wrote:
Has anyone had a chance to compare the CookieMute with the Divitt or the Rejano as far as sound, resistance, or intonation?


I'll let others cover the playing comparisons as I obviously have a conflict of interest!

I happen to own both the Divitt and Rejano mutes and like aspects of them both and think that they're well designed. In fact one or the other was my 'go-to' depending on my mood before I ultimately designed the CookieMute.

One difference I would like to point out is the gasket material used. I use cork, while the Divitt I have uses a foam gasket and the Rejano Mute uses a printed-in-place TPU gasket.

The foam works, but my Divitt mute has fallen out of my bell a few times.

Over the course of a year or so the TPU gasket has gotten significantly stiffer and as a consequence both my Rejano trumpet and trombone versions have fallen out of the bell and broken. (I used the trombone version on my flugel)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is the resistance compared to the newest version of the Yamaha Silent Brass mute?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lawler Bb wrote:
How is the resistance compared to the newest version of the Yamaha Silent Brass mute?


If I am correct (it's the one that sticks way far in the bell and has the finger grips on it?) it's WAY more open. I had one of those briefly and anytime I'd use it I'd mess my chops up from overblowing it.

I'll leave it to others to compare though
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidkoch wrote:
Lawler Bb wrote:
How is the resistance compared to the newest version of the Yamaha Silent Brass mute?


If I am correct (it's the one that sticks way far in the bell and has the finger grips on it?) it's WAY more open. I had one of those briefly and anytime I'd use it I'd mess my chops up from overblowing it.

I'll leave it to others to compare though


That’s the one. Thank you!
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