Bb buying advice coming off a 9335CH II

Trollet

Hi! Currently playing my 9335CH gen 2 for most of my work, ranging from showband (pop covers with horns), musicals and a mardigras band.

I like the Chicago but i feel its a little too much "legit" feeling for my preference, i like the hard slots but it's slightly too tight. Looking for something a tad darker and more open, but nothing drastic. Tried a 8310z (gen 1) and it had too mutch spread to the sound and not enough projection.

What would you think is slightly more open and maybe more "jazzy" (Not jazzy as a martin but you get the idea). than the 9335CH.
Other Yamahas? Bach? Heard great things of the Thane, ar resonance, edwards, Bohme trumpets. The 9335CH II is also for sale on facebook in the 2 main groups.

Have a good day!
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ldwoods · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:45 am Post subject:

I am no expert, but have owned a lot of different horns and always find a strong preference to Schilke. I would recommend the S32 or for slightly more flexibility the B1.
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kerouack · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:04 am Post subject:

Have you tried the artist model new york ?

which mouthpiece do you use ?

Dayton · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:35 am Post subject:

Have you considered the Yamaha 6335RC? It has been quite a while since I've played that or the Chicago II, but it seems to me that the 6335RC has those qualities you are looking for.

I'll also mention the Bach 19072V, which is not easy to find right now. I think it offers the qualities you are looking for, and is quite a versatile horn.

Good luck!

abontrumpet · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 1781

A good Bach seems to be hard to find in Europe.

So if you enjoyed Yamaha in the past, I would look specifically at the 8335RSII. The reverse pipe model is a very popular choice in the states and extremely popular with cross-over (legit and commercial) players. I think it hits all the points you are looking for.

Good luck!

Trollet · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:51 am Post subject:

Croquethed · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:58 am Post subject:

Please take with a grain of salt as I have played exclusively on Getzen horns since my comeback.

But the Edwards X-13 is a "jazzy" horn. I have two, one silver plate and one satin lacquer. The silver is brighter but both are very open and have that nice kind of soft edge around the note.

dr_trumpet · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:05 am Post subject:

I'd see if you can locate the new Bach Apollo with the 43 bell. You might also consider finding a good used Bach Commercial trumpet. Also, a good lightweight Stradivarius with a 72* is a great option.
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Ronnman · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:10 am Post subject:

Trollet - Do you know what your current mouthpiece gap is? Have you tried different mouthpiece gaps?

From GR Mouthpiece website: If the gap is greater it is a positive (+) gap measurement and the result will be a bit more resistance, although, the horn will slot and speak well. If the gap is less it is a minus (-) gap measurement and the result will cause less resistance, as well as, difficulty slotting. Some players like this condition and prefer the gap to the minus side.

You might look through some recent TH threads on mouthpiece gaps on Yamaha and some other brands.

https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=164091&highlight=

https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=164103&highlight=

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kerouack · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:31 am Post subject:

I think the artist model New York is more flexible and you could just try it like you can try so many others, there are lot of options you could like, not only one, just always buy only something you can try before.

But I also think before selling your trumpet and spending lot of money you should try just with different mouthpieces, like one Yamaha mpc with the Yamaha D cup. Your GR is quite small, may be just changing to a deeper bigger mpc you get what you want.

Brassnose · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:01 am Post subject:

Bach 43, Conn 52B, Schilke B6, Edwards X-13, B&S MBX2 come to (my) mind.
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Trollet · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:05 am Post subject:

jengstrom · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:21 am Post subject:

Shark01 · Veteran Member Joined: 10 Jun 2017 Posts: 283

Schilke B series is your answer

RL · Veteran Member Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 162

Yamaha 8340 EM

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Louise Finch · Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject:

kerouack · Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:39 pm Post subject:

Trollet, you should first try with another mpc, like a Yamaha one.

yourbrass · Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:04 pm Post subject:

As much as I love my X-13, looking at the type of work the OP is doing, I'd go for brighter sound. Schilke, a Getzen pro model of whatever type, and don't forget the Miyashiro Yamaha (EM).
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