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Tom Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Do you guys know where to start? I'd like to buy a baroque trumpet but I need names and addresses of manufacturers so I can start searching.
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oneeyedhobbit Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 464 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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If I'm not mistaken, a baroque trumpet is just a piccolo trumpet with a new name....check out Jim Donaldson's Gearhead site, he can recommend several. |
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trombapaul2 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Posts: 1889 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Tom,
You're not referring to a clarino natural trumpet are you? That too has been
called a "baroque" trumpet.
Paul
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Mr. Stomvi Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Apr 2002 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I assume you are talking about a natural trumpet
Check out the following web site
http://aswltd.com/brass.htm
Good Luck
Seth Moore
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The "Flattergrub" or literally the "uncouth flutter" was the very descriptive term that the Germans had for the pedal tones. Apparently some players could produce a "Flattergrub" and nothing more.
Richard I. Schwartz
"The Cornet Compendium"
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RGale Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 2818
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have one made by Frank Tomes in London ; it is very well made. Egger in Switzerland, Edwards aand Keavy Vyryne in England, and Naumann in Wisconsin are some of the better known makers.I am in a group in Seattle that plays the valveless beasts, and there is a group in Philadelphia, I think. There is a website devoted to these instruments.Contact me or the website if you want more info. They are fun but it takes some getting used to. Take a while to get to know them; they punish overblowing and must be played without pushing too hard. |
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RGale Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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The Natural Trumpet Resource Website. Try this. |
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fuzzyjon79 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Posts: 3014 Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Andrew Naumann, who now owns Schilke, makes natural trumpets.
http://www.schilkemusic.com/Naumann/ _________________ J. Fowler
"It takes a big ole' sack of flour, to make a big ole' pan of biscuits!" |
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 11315 Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Oh the joy of not knowing quite what we are being asked
A piccolo trumpet - completely misnamed, if referred to as a baroque trumpet. It is true that we tend to play baroque music upon these, but they should definitely not be referred to as baroque trumpets.
Natural trumpets (which is what I assume you meant) come in basically two sorts There are those with holes and those without.
The authentic baroque trumpets do not have holes in them. There are very few people who make them like this, due to the current trend of obtaining holed trumpets. The best of this type I have played were made by David Maller - http://www.mallerbbi.com - an amazing sound with excellent intonation, even without the holes.
There are many makers who produce natural trumpets with finger holes, many of which have been mentioned already. The holes, allegedly, make these instruments easier to play in tune and able to produce a greater volume whilst doing so.
For me, the holes take something away from the true sound of a natural baroque trumpet. They are not supposed to sound like modern trumpets (I had great fun watching a couple of guys at ITG last year trying to play natural trumpets as if they were Bachs!), you don't need to produce the same volume. As for the tuning, the Maller trumpets have been the best in tune I have played. The F/F# needed some lipping in, but it was very achievable. The instruments I have played with holes tend to get those notes in tune (when you use the holes) but compromise in other areas.
Find yourself a great natural trumpet player to take a lesson with, if you are interested in this sort of thing. I have been fortunate enough to take a lesson with Crispian Steele-Perkins - quite amazing. After a couple of hours I felt I actually knew what I wanted from these instruments.
If you are aiming to play them - listen to the great players - Crispian, Ed Tarr, Ludwig Guttler, Niklus Eklund.
Do NOT try and play them like a modern trumpet. They will fight you all the way. Treat them well and they will reward you with the sweetest tone you can imagine. |
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