Yamaha Xeno

Martijn Zijlmans · New Member Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 8

Hey people,
I'm new here, so let me first introduce myself.
I'm a 18-year-old trumpeteer from Holland, who is going to high school of Music (or however you English / American people say that

) and I want to buy a new trumpet. I have played on a few trumpets which are most recommended: 4 different Strads, a Callichio, Edwards, van Laar (Dutch brand), and a Xeno, the YTR-8335RGS. This last one, the Xeno was the one I preferred most. Some of you would say, simple, why don't you buy the Xeno? But is the Xeno an instrument with professional quality? Is it an instrument with which I can make progress in my studying time? It may play good now, but maybe the Strad plays better in a few years. Please comment on this,
Martijn

Tootsall · Heavyweight Member Joined: 05 May 2002 Posts: 2952

You like the YTR-8335RGS? Buy it. It won't fall apart any sooner than any of the others and it is definitely a pro-quality instrument; perhaps not "custom", but certainly as good as any "off the shelf" Bach. And the YTR 8XXX series IS "Xeno" model.

_dcstep · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:05 am Post subject:

The Yamaha Xenos are some of the very best horns available. If one was a good match for you and you've got the cash and desire, buy it.

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camelbrass · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:06 am Post subject:

Hi,

Agree on all counts. The Xeno is a good professional horn..if that's the one you like, it certainly won't hold you back.

Regards

Trevor

Rick · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:19 am Post subject:

What was it about the Calicchio that you didn't like?? What model did you try??

Thanks---<Rick

Trptbenge · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:44 am Post subject:

The Xeno is a great choice. It is hard to beat the quality control and attention to detail that Yamaha puts into their horns. If you go to the Yamaha Band Instrument website and to trumpets you can view a video of a tour of the Yamaha with former Canadian Brass Trumpet player Jens Lindemann.

All the horns you mentioned are fine horns but for all types of music it would be hard to beat the Xeno Model. I have seen college players and Symphony players playing the Xeno.

Mike

Martijn Zijlmans · New Member Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 8

Hey Rick,
I don't remember exactly what model it was, nor why I didn't like it. I played a few long notes on it and some technical etudes and I knew immediately it wasn't the instrument I was looking for.

Thanks all for the fast answers! Didn't hear anything bad about the Xeno so far...so I think I'm gonna buy one:)

[ This Message was edited by: Martijn Zijlmans on 2004-02-27 14:12 ]

Tootsall · Heavyweight Member Joined: 05 May 2002 Posts: 2952

If you go to the Canadian Brass website, you can purchase Xeno trumpets that have been personally tested by the Canadian Brass players. Ask nicely and maybe they'll even leave their fingerprints on the horn!

http://stores.yahoo.com/canbrass/instruments.html#List .

trumpetmike · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject:

Fantastic instruments.

One of my more advanced students has just got one of these. We both went shopping, he tried about 15 (different makes, different finishes) and he settled upon a Xeno, in lacquer.
He sounds great on it - easily the best instrument for him that he tried that day.

Some of the best instruments available today, in my opinion.

xenogs · Regular Member Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 11

I would even go as far as to say that yamaha horns have the best workmanship and consistency for all mass produced horns in the world! Some players have even complained that yamaha horns have no individual character as they are so consistent!

Unless you get a really good bach, I don't think you'll go wrong with a yamaha Xeno~

Xenogs

E.D.Lewis · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject:

Tiger Okoshi plays the Xeno 8335RGS - I don't think it's holding him back

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Paul.Trumpet · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject:

I played a Yamaha 8335RGS for a year.
I've also got a 631G flugel - which is faster, more flexible and way louder.
Its also just as bad to attempt playing notes over top C on.

Better trumpets are the Bach 43RL strad and the Conn V1.
They also probably cost a lot more.

You have to pick what suits you best though.
Everyone is different - so is every shop stock.

oneeyedhobbit · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject:

I don't think the V1 or Strad in any configuration can necessarily be called better, it really depends on individual preference. For me, the V1 is better, at least I think so. For someone else, maybe not the case. My only beef with the Yammie was that it didn't have quite the sound I was looking for, it sounded sort of generic and mechanical.

Graham Altham-Lewis · Regular Member Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 31

The Xenos are excellent pro horns which will fit a variety of situations and are very good value. They will not hold back your development as a player unless the horn does not work for you which obviously is not the case for you. Don't think they are "worse" than other horns because they are cheaper. If it worked better for you then I would go for it. Try to compare the 8335s along side the 8335RGS to see which you prefer. (The reverse lead pipe in the RGS will make it slighltly freer blowing where as the 8335s will have slightly more resistence).

Happy hunting!

Graham.
Graham.

Martijn Zijlmans · New Member Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 8

Thanks for all the good advices so far!

Paul.Trumpet you say 'better trumpets' are the Bach strad 43RL and Conn V1. What do you exactly mean with better? Better in what view?

trumpetmike · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject:

Martijn - I would hazard a guess that for him those instruments work better.

What works for one player won't always work for others. Play everything, choose the one that works for you.