Rim Scars

TrumpetEnthusiast1 · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject:

I'm a senior in high school and participate in pretty much all of my schools instrumental groups (wind ensemble, jazz band, marching band, orchestra, and the musical) as well as practicing daily. I'm starting to notice an outline of where the mouthpiece rests on the red of my upper lip. Don't get my wrong, I don't place the mouthpiece only on the red part of the lips, it's about 50/50 for me, but the only spot I can see the outline is on the red of the upper lip. Anyways, the tissue seems to be permanantly swollen (like right after you play, but all the time). Just curious if this is something to worry about. Any input is greatly appreciated.

_dcstep · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:46 am Post subject:

That's a callous. I used to get them when I played with too much pressure. If you plan to keep playing, then go to the Balanced Embouchure forum too see how to get out of the box you're in.

Good luck,

Dave
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Mean Liberal · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:15 am Post subject:

Your description sounds a lot like my embouchure, though it's hard to tell without actually seeing you. Though it looks from the outside that you are playing 50/50 top to bottom, your upper lip may be rolled out to the point where the rim of the mouthpiece rests in the red. This is how my embouchure is, and I am currently working with my teacher to keep my top lip rolled in more so I'll be "out of the red." This may or may not be your situation, but either way, you should consult your teacher (or a teacher if you don't have one) about getting you out of the red.
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MarchardFerguson · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject:

Callouses are GOOD!, it means that your flesh is tougher but not the inner part which vibrates.

John Mohan · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject:

Mr.Hollywood · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 1730

Don't sweat the callouses, everybody gets them.

I've had them for almost 30 years, and when I lay off for a while they start to peel off in the shower and my lips are like a "babys butt" they are so smooth. But thats when I have to be extra careful playing until I build the callous back up again.

I think its just the way certain peoples body chemistry is. I callous on my feet, hands and anyplace else that something is constantly touching my skin.

Chris

TrumpetEnthusiast1 · Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:

Thanks a lot for the input guys.

Asian Man · Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:15 pm Post subject:

if callouses are good then why did satch scrape them off? cause they were that bad?
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Mr.Hollywood · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 1730

Louie got very, very bad callouses. They where so thick and bad that they affected his vibrating surface under the rim. There where times when he couldn't get a note out because of them.

Chris

_dcstep · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:06 am Post subject:

So, whether they're good or bad depends on their degree, I suppose. Interesting...

Dave
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leadlad · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:45 am Post subject:

Miles Davis definately had them. Check out the picture on the cover of "Miles, the autobiography" by Miles Davis and Quincy Troupe.
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