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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Peter,
Thanks for looking into the dates for these players at work. It's nice to go to the source for this kind of information. Looking forward to learning what you find out. _________________ Derek Reaban
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An update to the references for the London Philharmonic Orchestra. If you can help with dates and references, please do!
London Philharmonic Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1994-Current_______Paul Beniston
1974-1994_________Lawrence Evans (Is this end date correct?)
1965-1973_________Gordon Webb (Is this beginning data correct?)
1964-1965_________Philip Jones
1959-1964_________Denis Egan
1948-1959_________Eric Bravington (Is this end date correct?)
1943-1948_________Malcolm Arnold
1932-194?_________J H Cozens
Web Site: London Philharmonic Orchestra
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Paul Beniston
Principal
Anne McAneney
Nicholas Betts
Co-Principal
Lawrence Evans
References:
Majority of information from the article "LPO, OK" in "Sounding Brass" Summer 1980 by Sidney Ellison (4th trumpet).
Paul Beniston reference: http://www.gsmd.ac.uk/pages/node0131?node=&Name_Code=150
Anne McAneney reference: http://www.gsmd.ac.uk/pages/node0131?node=&Name_Code=152
Philip Jones, ITG web-site: http://www.trumpetguild.org/news/news00/jones.htm
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An update to the references for the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. James Watson was incorrectly referred to as John Watson. This has been corrected. Dennis Clift has been added. If you have names or dates, please contribute!
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
2003-Current_______David Carstairs
1997-2003_________Ian Balmain
1989-1997_________???
1977-1989_________Ray Simmons (Is this end date correct?)
1972-1976_________James Watson
1970-1972_________John Wilbraham
1963-1969_________Elgar Howarth
1960-1962_________Stanley Woods
1956-1960_________Philip Jones
1946-1956_________Dennis Clift (Not certain about the dates)
Web Site: http://www.rpo.co.uk/about_players.asp
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
David Carstairs - Principal Trumpet
Brian Thomson
Joseph Atkins
References:
The majority of the information is referenced from "Tommy's other band. (Thomas Beecham!)” from "Sounding Brass" for Autumn 1980 by Christopher Mowat (1st Trombone).
Ian Balmain reference: http://www.edwards-instruments.co.uk/trumpet/artists/balmain.shtml
James Watson, Principal trumpet of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. For seven years, James was the principal trumpeter at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden: http://www.nywo.org.uk/jameswatson.html
Elgar Howarth reference: http://www.fodensband.co.uk/recordings/rimmer.htm
Philip Jones, ITG web-site: http://www.trumpetguild.org/news/news00/jones.htm
Dennis Clift, October 1978 ITG Journal, “A Tribute to the British Trumpeters” by Michael Laplace.
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have found some references for The Halle Orchestra and included them here. Gareth Small has been removed from the Principal Trumpet list based on the information on his bio at Chetham's School of Music. Also how do you include the symbol for an "e" with the accent mark over the top? I need this for Hall"e"!
The Halle Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
198?-Current_______John MacMurray (Beginning date?)
Circa 1984_________John Dickinson (principal for 17 years, no starting or finishing dates at present)
1960-1968_________Bram Gay (Can someone verify these dates?)
1958-1960_________William Lang (Can someone verify these dates?)
194?-1958_________???
1933-194?_________Alex Harris (End date?)
191?-1933_________???
1908-191?_________J Valk (End date?)
18??-1908_________???
1858-18??_________Mr Ellwood (End date?)
Web Site: http://www.wardle.demon.co.uk/orch.html#players
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
John MacMurray Section Leader
Kenneth Brown
Gareth Small
References:
John Dickinson, Principal Trumpet with the Halle Orchestra for 17 years:
http://www.chethams.com/Music/Biographies/JDickinson.htm
Gareth Small, Assistant Principal Trumpet with the Halle Orchestra since 1993:
http://www.chethams.com/Music/Biographies/GSmall.htm _________________ Derek Reaban
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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New information from the October 1978 ITG Journal from the article by Michael Laplace entitled, “A Tribute to the British Trumpet Tradition”. Modified the end date for Ernest Hall from 1930 to 1929. Modified the dates for George Eskdale from 1932-1960 to 1934-1956. Added Dennis Clift from 1956-1960.
Founded in 1904, the London Symphony Orchestra was England’s first independent, self-governing orchestra. It soon became a limited company, owned and managed by the players.
London Symphony Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End______Name
1990-Current_______Rod Franks (Principal)
1977-2000_________Maurice Murphy (Principal) (Semi-retired, Still Playing as of 2003-2004)
1983-1990_________Malcolm Smith (Principal) (Is 1990 correct?)
1975-1977_________John Wallace (Principal) (The dates are approximate, help needed)
1967-1976_________Howard Snell (Principal)
1961-196?_________William Lang (Principal)
1960-1961_________Alan Stringe
1956-1960_________Dennis Clift
1934-1956_________George Eskdale
1929-1934_________????
1924-1929_________Ernest Hall
1904-1924_________John Solomon (Is 1924 correct?)
Web site: London Symphony Orchestra Trumpet Players
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Maurice Murphy – Principal Trumpet*
Rod Franks – Principal Trumpet*
Gerald Ruddock
Nigel Gomm
*NOTE: From the LSO web site: The LSO has always attracted players of top quality. In recent years the introduction of the 'joint Principal' scheme has encouraged musicians of the highest calibre to bring their skills to the Orchestra whilst giving them the flexibility to maintain their own solo and chamber careers.
EDIT: Andrew also sent me this information that I forgot to include the for the initial post:
George Reynolds Co-Princ (1950's-1960's?) _________________ Derek Reaban
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I received a PM with details about the Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. Here are the beginning details with more information to follow.
Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
2003-Current_______Ian Balmain
19??-Current_______Ian Brown
19??-19??_________Malcolm Smith
19??-1980_________Paul Archibald
1946-19??_________???
Web Site: http://info.royaloperahouse.org/Orchestra/Index.cfm?ccs=512
2003-2004 Section
Ian Balmain Section Principal
Ian Brown Section Principal
John Hardy Principal Cornet
Ruth Shaddock
References:
Paul Archibald reference: http://www.paularchibald.co.uk/pages/biog.php
Malcom Smith reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2002journal/0206london.pdf
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:45 am Post subject: |
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I received some input from Andrew Tomlinson today about the Halle Orchestra that fills in some blanks on our list and gives a good approximation for some dates of tenure. We’re making great progress on this ensemble!
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From: Andrew Tomlinson
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 3:36 AM
To: Reaban, Derek
Subject: Re: Halle Orchestra
Hi Derek
I've been looking at the book by Bram Gay "Trumpet Involuntary" and "Orchestra" edited by Andre Previn trying to sort out the dates of Willie Lang and Bram Gay. We seem fairly close.
In "Orchestra" page 56, Willie Lang says "Then in 1961 I came down to London to join the LSO as principal Trumpet. I've been with them ever since." (This might affect the LSO list).
So I think that might make Bram Gay 1961-1969.
I’ve also discovered two more principal trumpets:
Bram Gay says on page 180 "Sid (King) joined as second trumpet and rose to principal, a job for which he had more than adequate talent but perhaps not quite the temperament. By the time of my arrival he had become third player and an admirable back-up; a superb practical orchestral musician, his talent and taste extending to all sorts of music."
Page 68 "The old Halle [pre-war], with a handful of exceptions, had unexpectedly chosen to join the new BBC Orchestra." [Regional Orchestra]
And on page 69 "Among the loyal remnants of the old orchestra were remarkable talents. Arthur Lockwood, the aging first trumpet, was still among Britain's finest;"
Unfortunately, no dates, though we can probably make some rough guesses.
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From: Andrew Tomlinson
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 3:59 AM
To: Reaban, Derek
Subject: Re: Halle Orchestra
Hi again Derek
It occurs to me that if John Dickinson (17 years) followed Bram Gay in 1969 this would take us to circa 1986. Which could the right time period.
Gareth Small appears now to be only Assistant Principal, when I did a google search "Gareth Small +trumpet". (Chetham's School).
I can't seem to find any dates for John MacMurray at present.
Andrew
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The Halle Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
198?-Current_______John MacMurray (Beginning date?)
1969-1986_________John Dickinson (Based on attached references)
1961-1969_________Bram Gay (Based on attached references)
1958-1961_________William Lang (Based on attached references)
194?-1958_________Sid King (Need help on dates)
1933-194?_________Alex Harris (End date?)
191?-1933_________Arthur Lockwood (Start date?)
1908-191?_________J Valk (End date?)
18??-1908_________???
1858-18??_________Mr Ellwood (End date?)
Web Site: http://www.wardle.demon.co.uk/orch.html#players
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
John MacMurray Section Leader
Kenneth Brown
Gareth Small
References:
John Dickinson, Principal Trumpet with the Halle Orchestra for 17 years:
http://www.chethams.com/Music/Biographies/JDickinson.htm
Gareth Small, Assistant Principal Trumpet with the Halle Orchestra since 1993:
http://www.chethams.com/Music/Biographies/GSmall.htm
Bram Gay and William Lang references, “Orchestra” edited by Andre Previn, Page 56
Sid King and Arthur Lockwood references, “Trumpet Involuntary” by Bram Gay, Pages 68, 69, and 180 _________________ Derek Reaban
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: |
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More input from Andrew Tomlinson! New names, dates, and a story about Harry Dilley.
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Here is what Bram Gay said about Harry Dilley in his autobiography:
"It helped that our principal trumpet was a fine artist and a wonderful colleague. Harry Dilley had been at Covent Garden since the late "forties". The most remarkable trumpeter with whom I've been privileged to work, he was kindness itself. We had a lot of background in common, from the Salvation Army up through the Guards. He seemed glad to have me, probably because his other trumpets were so much younger. In his sixties, Harry played like a man of twenty-five, a trumpeter's trumpeter with a unique place in the London profession. A modest retiring man, he could have been famous, but the comparative anonymity of the opera pit suited him. Even the admiration of his colleagues embarrassed Harry a little. We played wonderful repertoire together, his astonishing performance a compensation for the fun I was missing."
Bram Gay "Trumpet Involuntary"-an orchestral life p.114
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Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
2003-Current_______Ian Balmain
19??-Current_______Ian Brown
1990-1999_________Malcolm Smith (Dates?)
19??-19??_________John Hardy (Co-Principal)
1983-1990_________James Watson
1978-1980_________Paul Archibald (Co-Principal)
1958-1963_________Elgar Howarth
194?-1958_________Harry Dilley
1946-194?_________???
Web Site: http://info.royaloperahouse.org/Orchestra/Index.cfm?ccs=512
2003-2004 Section
Ian Balmain Section Principal
Ian Brown Section Principal
John Hardy Principal Cornet
Ruth Shaddock
References:
Paul Archibald reference: http://www.paularchibald.co.uk/pages/biog.php
Malcom Smith reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2002journal/0206london.pdf
James Watson. For seven years, James was the principal trumpeter at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden: http://www.nywo.org.uk/jameswatson.html
Harry Dilley reference, Bram Gay "Trumpet Involuntary"-an orchestral life p.114
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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More input from Andrew Tomlinson. It interesting to see Longinotti on this list. I remember working out of his etude book in college, but I had no idea about his background. Interesting what I'm learning as we're putting these lists together!
Orchestre de la Suisse Romande
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
19??-Current_______Stephen Jeandheur (Co-Principal)
1977-Current_______Dennis Ferry (Co-Principal)
1964-1976_________Michel Cuvit (End date?)
1949-1963_________Paolo Longinotti
1943-1949_________Francis Bodet
1918-1943_________Need Help!
Web Site: http://www.osr.ch/en/orchestre/trompette.htm
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Dennis Ferry - Principal
Stephen Jeandheur - Principal
Gerard Metrailler
Claude-Alain Barmaz
Michel Debonneville
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Hi Derek,
Regarding the IPO, Ken Cox came before Robert Frear, so their names should be inverted. I think Robert Frear left in 1990.
Sorry I am not more helpful, but perhaps Tal can help us if he has a lesson with Yigal, as I think he also studied with Ken and definitely Rob.
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Derek,
Regarding the Suisse Romande Orchestra, my first year on trumpet was when we lived (very shortly, only 2 years) in Geneva in the 70's. I remember that my teacher was a student of Michel Cuvit, who got to see me in one of my very first lessons and suggested that I take a trip to the dentist to correct teeth alignment for easier playing!
I had an old LP with Haydn and Hummel, played by Longinotti and Cuvit, respectively. They had completely opposite musical approach to the instrument, Longinotti playing very brashly in a positive sense, with a brightish sound and with bravoure, while Cuvit had a very sweet, soft sound. Cuvit took the 3rd movement very slowly, single tongued. Quite different approaches than the standard Haydn/Hummel output!
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Here is the information that I currently have for the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra. I need help with some of the dates (it appears Chris Martin began as Principal Trumpet in 1999 based on the attached reference but it may be 2000 instead). There is an overlap between the dates for John Head and James Thompson based on the attached references. Is it that John Head was Principal through the 1989-1990 season and then became a Co-Principal when James Thompson joined the group? Any information on players before John Head would be appreciated too!
Atlanta Symphony Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1999-Current_______Christopher Martin
1998-1999_________Mark Hughes (Associate / Acting Principal)
1990-1998_________James Thompson
1963-1994_________John Head
1945-1963_________Need Help!
Web Site: http://www.atlantasymphony.com/meet/musicians.html
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Christopher Martin, Principal Trumpet
Joseph Walthall
Mark Hughes, Associate principal
Michael Tiscione
References:
Christopher Martin reference: http://www.barharborbrass.org/Faculty.htm
James Thompson reference: http://www.rochester.edu/Eastman/faculty/?id=139:
John Head reference: http://www.music.gsu.edu/community/directoryproc.asp?Ident=128 _________________ Derek Reaban
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Eugene Blee was principal of the Cincinnati Symphony prior to Phil Collins. |
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Charles Daval played principal in Seattle after Manny Laureano. |
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