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Trumpcyms1993 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject: acclimating to E flat trumpet |
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I have never played e flat trumpet until this semester. What are some good ways to get more comfortable playing it? _________________ Yamaha ytr-8335RGM Xeno Bb
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2331 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Play it, daily. And play some of the same things that you play on your bigger horns; same etudes, excerpts-that kind of thing, to get used to the differences.
Don't try to force it to have the same tone - it will probably take you a while to settle into a tone you're comfortable with. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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cjl Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 2421 Location: TN
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Start out by playing easy stuff you know, like the Arban phrasing studies or the Getchell books - something not too hard. Play as written just to get used to hearing notes coming out of the horn higher than you expect at first. |
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dstdenis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 May 2013 Posts: 2123 Location: Atlanta GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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I suggest you might try some fun, easy, melodic music, for example, Getchell/Hovey First Book of Practical Studies, or Concone Lyrical Studies, or maybe some of the easier pieces from the Arban book, Art of Phrasing.
Rest often, try to relax, don't play very loud, and just focus on the music. This will keep your conscious thoughts on the music and allow your subconscious brain to get acclimated to all the differences in how the smaller trumpet feels when played. You'll also be able to judge when you're ready to transition from this easier material to more challenging repertoire.
[edit: I see cji was suggesting some of the same material while I was typing. ] _________________ Bb Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
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m3auer Regular Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2014 Posts: 68 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Try listening to a lot of pieces that use an Eb trumpet to acclimate your ears and your mind to the sound. It should help to improve your playing. |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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To the above add - air flow.
Lots of players starting out on higher horns have all sorts of intonation issues, start using alternate fingerings and then chase themselves from here to the back of the black stump.
The actual instrument will also make a difference. A short model Yamaha is a very different proposition to large bore 4 valve B&S, and also to a Schilke E3L, etc. Some are small bored, some are like a cut down C trumpet.
But above all, sit back and enjoy the ride!
cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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CodyMac90 Regular Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 12 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Add it to your warm up each day. Just a few minutes or so(Depending on how long your routine is). If you teach private lessons that require you to demonstrate the same thing over and over each day, pull it out and use it then. Just like when you got your C trumpet, it'll take time on the horn. |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 2734 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Part of the problem is that the horn plays a third or fourth higher than what you are used to hearing when reading the music (depending on whether your "home" horn is a C or Bb). When you see a printed 2nd line G, you have to hear a concert Bb and aim for that instead of the G or F that you are expecting. You might also try singing a third or fourth above the printed music to get used to this concept without taxing your chops in the process.
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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If it's at all like the transition to the picc then you'll be inclined to play too low in the slot causing you to push the tuning slide way in. Far better to leave the tuning slide in a more neutral position and learn to play a bit higher in the slot than you're accustomed to.
I recommend that you do all your regular routine on your Bb then reserve time to do one Clarke study at modest to low intensity on the Eb just to help you get aligned with the intervals. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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Steve A Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 1808 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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I like quietish breath attacks to get settled on how a different trumpet speaks/sounds. Also, it's gentle, and won't hurt you or tire you out. |
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