Must ask.... Frumpet!?

connloyalist · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:19 am Post subject:

I saw an auction on eBay selling a "frumpet".... Please excuse my ignorance, but what the h*** is a "frumpet"? I assume a cross between a trumpet and a flugelhorn?

Regards, Christine

veldkamp · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:38 am Post subject:

http://www.angelfire.com/oh/EbAltoTenorFhorn/frumpet.html
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boofredlay · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:51 am Post subject:

The pictures don't show when I go to that site.
Monette makes a Flumpet... http://www.monette.net/newsite/instruments_flumpet.htm

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veldkamp · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:22 am Post subject:

another try

http://www.horncollector.com/Mellophones/Getzen/1973%20Getzen%20Frumpet.htm

the frumpet is different from the flumpet. The frumpet is a altohorn in F more like a horn or mellophoon, the flumpet is a Bb horn.
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lewis4545 · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject:

Frumpets are different than flumpets, as the previous folks have pointed out. The previous definition of frumpet is correct to my understanding.

I am aware of two attempts to combine a trumpet and flugelhorn, by Monette and Taylor. The Monette version is called the "Flumpet", which was played to great effect by the great Art Farmer. A lesser known instrument is the Taylor Manhattan, much closer in appearance to a trumpet which is designed specifically for that fluffy, cool jazz sound being played nowadays by Rick Braun, Chris Botti and the like (hence the name Manhattan). For clarification, those guys don't play a Taylor Manhattan; just the type of sound concept Andy Taylor was going for in designing the horn. I've heard the Manhattan on several recordings and it does have a softer, more flugel-like sound. Would love to try one out.

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jhaysom · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject:

marching FRench horn would sort of like a trUMPET = FRUMPET

They use a French horn mouthpiece and play in either F or (with a longer tuning slide) Eb.

I've got one and it's an infernal machine. Forget about slotting -- not even close. Try tuning it with electronic tuner -- OK at one end of an octive or the other but not both at the same time.
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plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

Frumpet? Flumpet?
I'm getting confused and flustrated! I mean frustrated!

Getzen · Heavyweight Member Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 1924

From my understanding of the two the flumpet is a cross between a fluegel and a trumpet while the frumpet is a combination of a french horn and a trumpet. Back in the day Allied Music used to make frumpets for DEG. DEG also played around with a saxophone/trumpet cross breed. I can't remember the name of it, but needless to say it wasn't all that popular.

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jhaysom · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject:

Now, if we were to cross a STRinged instrument, such as a violin, with a trUMPET, we would get ------

-------- a STRUMPET!

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Yamaha 8310ZS trumpet
Yamaha 6310ZS trumpet
Courtois flugel
1941 King Silvertone cornet
1941 King 2B valve trombone
Kanstul 920 piccolo
etc.

Annie · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject:

ROTFL
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