Would you agree this Ambassador is "Excellent"

jhaysom · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:16 am Post subject:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16214&item=3719077872&rd=1

Guess is depends on your definition of "Excellent."

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trumpetmike · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:30 am Post subject:

Maybe he mean "excrement" and just has problems spelling?

nextbrassguy · Heavyweight Member Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 1428

"Excellent" = "no major damage" + missing spit valve??? I always thought "excellent" meant a little more than that!

bgwbold · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:23 am Post subject:

Somebody here recently posted some photos of an Ambassador they had gotten overhauled. One of the things they did was to put new waterkeys on it. With a new finish and different waterkeys, it looked like a completely different horn. While this example is definitely not "excellent," if you were able to get into it at a low price, this might be a great candidate for something like that. Putting on new waterkeys was not a really costly repair the last time I had it done.

jhaysom · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:37 pm Post subject:

No, this probably wouldn't take all that much to make it presentable. I was tempted myself until I noticed the droop of the bell. However, it's going a little far to call it "Excellent."
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John Haysom
Ottawa, Ontario
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Yamaha 8310ZS trumpet
Yamaha 6310ZS trumpet
Courtois flugel
1941 King Silvertone cornet
1941 King 2B valve trombone
Kanstul 920 piccolo
etc.

mheffernen5 · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject:

E-Bay is full of dirty liars...you want things in mint condition when you get them not broken.

roynj · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2065

No. That is not an excellent example of an Ambassador. It would appear to have several non-olds parts such as the 2nd bottom cap, and the main tuning slide (not a minor problem). It also appears to be entirely cancerous with red rot. This non-excellent horn wouldn't even make a pleasant looking lamp.

camel lips · Heavyweight Member Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 687

Excellent,

Far from it.

I think the proper way to list a item and be fair about it would be to say.

"The horn overall is in good shape.No dents or dings but has a missing water key.The finish on this horn shows wear and is in the condition expected of a horn that is almost 40+ years old."

I try and be as accurate in my EBAY ads as possible.I have never had any negative feedback on any of the items I have ever sold.

If everyone would just live by those rules there would never be a problem on ebay.

tooslick · Veteran Member Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 117

tooslick · Veteran Member Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 117

Not only is the bell droop noticeable, the picture of the bell end of the horn appears that a crease was only partially smoothed out, if at all. But the horn is actually 50+ years old.

musicmork · Heavyweight Member Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 1530

Maybe he meant the case is excellent.

Here...Re-read the ad as .... Vintage Olds Ambassador Trumpet w/case *Excellent*

Now put the emphasis to mean the case is excellent.

If you read it any other way...it's an old ugly duckling with a bell that needs Viagra!!!

On the brighter side...I guess you could give it a buff and polish, replace some parts, and then sell it for a small profit.
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