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_Clarino Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 1087 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:38 am Post subject: Time Machine |
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Manny asked the question:
MannyLaureano wrote: | Hey, there's an idea for a thread: You, a time machine, and only one round trip. Which performance of what would you go to?
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I think for me it would have to be Rachmaninoff palying his own Third Piano Concerto with the Halle under Barbirolli.
Anyone else? |
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jophst Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:44 am Post subject: |
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For some reason, I'd love to be there to hear the first performance of "The Rhapsody in Blue". I know that's not real trumpet related though.
I'd also like to go back to listen to a few Adolph performances.
However, if I had a time machine, I'd probably want to do something else. _________________ Bb - Yamaha Xeno 8335RGS
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Guy NoVa Veteran Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 205 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:14 am Post subject: Time machine |
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I'd want to hear Bix in his prime -- maybe with the Goldkette orchestra. Everything I've read says that his tone was pure and sweet, "Like a girl saying 'Yes'," according to Eddie Condon. And everyone in a position to know, having heard both live and recorded performances, says that the recorded Bix is a pale shadow of his true sound, especially after he moved to the Whiteman band, which was recorded by Columbia.
Very few of the great solos that Bix did with Trumbauer were recorded because the idiots at Victor hated the free-wheeling improvization that Bix and Tram were brilliant at. The record company executives thought only old folks bought records, and so they insisted on straight-laced sentimental ballads, played straight, with no "funny stuff."
I'd also warn Bix to quit drinking, 'cause it was gonna kill him in a few years. _________________ _________________
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Mikeytrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 5028 Location: Richfield, Minnesota
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Not only warn Bix about his drinking, but also:
Berigan
Gozzo
T. Dorsey (choked in his sleep on his own vomit while drunk)
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I'm sure if I thought more, I could get a long list, but this is nothing to be happy about.................
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Martin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 1168 Location: Vienna/Austria
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:41 am Post subject: |
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jophst wrote: |
I'd also like to go back to listen to a few Adolph performances.
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Huh?!?
I dunno, I definitely prefer Charlie Chaplin´s performance in "The Great Dictator"...
I´d like to revisit the first jazz concert I ever attended - Woody Shaw in his prime with Steve Turre and Mulgrew Miller. I enjoyed it tremendously, but it really was way too much for me at the time.
One of Gottfried Reiche´s gigs with JSB would be pretty interesting, too. I wonder how all those "original" instruments really sounded... _________________ All the best
Martin
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jophst Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Sorry ... I didn't clarify ... Adolph Herseth
"Bud"
I'm thinking of purchasing a few on DVD. _________________ Bb - Yamaha Xeno 8335RGS
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Martin Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:52 am Post subject: |
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jophst wrote: |
Sorry ... I didn't clarify ... Adolph Herseth
"Bud"
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Of course. I was just pulling your leg. _________________ All the best
Martin
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MannyLaureano Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 405 Location: Plymouth, Minnesota
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:57 am Post subject: |
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For me it's the Rite of Spring premiere. And I want to sit right behind Maurice Ravel to see if he really did ask " What IS that instrument?" when the bassoon started playing the opening.
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jophst Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Yes I know Martin ... was just hoping there was no confusion with Hitler ... did he play trumpet when he wasn't taking over the world?
I think he took piano lessons when he was younger _________________ Bb - Yamaha Xeno 8335RGS
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Athos Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: |
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I'd opt for the premiere of Mahler's 3rd. I'd want to hear just how that posthorn sounded, and what the instrument was, actually. I'd also love to see the audience reaction to some of the more confusing or jarring moments in the piece. It would also be interesting to hear sound concept and intonation of an orchestra a century old... how would it compare to today? |
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etownfwd Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 468 Location: Pottsville, PA
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Not being old enough to have heard "Pops" live, I would want to sit-in on the Hot Fives, Hot Sevens recording sessions. It's a hell of a thing to not only hear great music, but to be a part of history too!
-efwd |
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JackD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to have seen the premiere of Handel's 'Musick for the Royal Fireworks'. I bet that would be interesting, and impressive! |
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trumpjosh Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Woodstock. For the music, of course. |
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Brandenburg 2
Not just to hear the sound of a baroque trumpet being played properly, but also to be sure that it was written for a trumpet, not a horn (as some people have suggested).
Actually, to hear Bach and his orchestra play anything would be pretty amazing.
What I would really love is to introduce some of the all-time greats - Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, etc and introduce them to the modern musical world. I would love to see what they thought of it all. I wonder what sort of music would appeal to them? Would they end up writing the "modern classical" style of music, jazz, pop, or what? |
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tcutrpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with Mr. Laureano on this one. It would just be amazing to be at the premier of Rite just to see people's reaction. _________________ Matt Cyr
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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The IPO of Beethoven's 9th. _________________ Craig Mitchell |
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bigaggietrumpet Regular Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 70 Location: College Station, TX
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Benny Goodman at the Paramount. _________________ Michael Smith
There is nothing so unnatural as the commonplace- Sherlock Holmes
Olds Studio/Laskey 80B/Schilke 14
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eb1ch Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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1st ever performance of the haydn would be a trip. I'd also like to drop in on one of Mr. Arban's recitals or masterclasses.
If I was feeling sinister I would go see Gottfried Reiche with Bach. After the show I would say to Reiche “that was pretty good, but try it on this…” then I’d hand him a modern D trumpet or something. I would give it to him, thus changing and vastly speeding up the evolution of our instrument. Think or all the repertoire we would have by becoming a chromatic instrument so early!!! Concertos and chamber music and much better orchestral parts from Bach, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, the list is endless. Crazy! |
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_londonhusker Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I got two here....
1. I wish I could have heard Tristan & Isolde/Furtwangler 1953, Philharmonia, ROH Chorus, Flagsted/Suthaus etc....
2. I wish I could have told Clifford not to get in that car..... |
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saltpot Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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For me; the premier of:
* Holsts The Planets
* Stravinskys The Rite of spring
* Debussys La Mer or L'apres midi d'un faune
* Beethovens Eroica
* Berlious' Symphony Fantastique
For me these are pivitol on the edge peices of music. All of them were way ahead of there time.
For-instance take Berlious' symphony fantastique; in the second (dance) movement there is a section where Berlios see's his love (Harriot) across dance floor and all the background confusion drops down, everthing goes quiet, and then the music fosusses on the l'idee fixe (harriot)..... Film composers have ripped this effect off a million times!! Like in the modern romeo an juliet (with d'caprio), when romeo sees julliet through the fish tanks everything goes quiet exactly the same way!!
This is why I'm studying and playing music!!!
Cheers
Jody _________________ http://www.jodysalt.com |
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