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heavyharmonies · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:

Didn't he have this same pair up a month or two ago??...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41400&item=3721593926&rd=1

-Dan

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bulos · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject:

"With the following promulgation of sagacious erudition, the genius artisan, Dr. Vincent Bach, manifested his vision into a corporeal reality and established a level of world class mastercrafted trumpets that to this day serve as the exemplar of the world's finest brass... timeless...beautiful...and truly stunning in every regard... "

I think if I ever was intorduced to this guy I'd immediately smack him in the nose........real hard.
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Trptbenge · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:

Paul,

It sounds like a snake oil salesman or W.C. Fields. I get second dibs.

Mike
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Archie Sawyer · Heavyweight Member Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 668

I guess I don't know a lot about the older Bach horns. What is it about these pair of trumpets that have drawn the negative comments? Are they fakes? The seller's rating doesn't appear to be that bad.
Archie

mark125 · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:48 am Post subject:

Is it the fact that this guy is using "big" words or has he done something personally to you?
Is there something about the listing that is not true?

Mark

maynard-46 · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:52 am Post subject:

..."I think if I ever was intorduced to this guy I'd immediately smack him in the nose........real hard".....
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tptptp · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:09 am Post subject:

OK...Out of respect for the moderators and this great site, I won't comment about this particular seller, with whom I have had dealings. The horns look pretty. The wording of the ad is pretty. The photography is pretty. Some old Bach horns are pretty. Some old Bach horns play pretty. My money looks pretty in my pocket, and will stay there this time.
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David · Veteran Member Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 379

I like the Bach

mouthpieces they apparently come with . . .
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TrentAustin · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:43 am Post subject:

If you're really looking for a NY Bach I have one up for auction... I'll put it in words I can understand:

The horn plays GREAT

Here's the URL:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3721681303

I'm selling to help raise money for bills. This is a great horn that should be played all the time and since I'm playing my Eclipse I feel this horn needs to go to a new home. The reserve is lower than you'll find any other NY Bach on ebay and well worth the value. Email me with specific questions about the instrument.

Best,

Trent
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vlbcw1 · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 9:20 am Post subject:

Looks like someone is in love with their thesarus....or prepping for SAT's? This is a singularly ostentatious verbosity!!!!!

Regards,

Lori

vlbcw1 · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 9:24 am Post subject:

Looks like someone is in love with their thesarus....or prepping for SAT's? This is a singularly ostentatious verbosity!!!!!

Regards,

Lori

camel lips · Heavyweight Member Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 687

You might try and mention something about this over on

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ebaywatchlist/

Its a place where you can post suspicious ebay activity.It is going well so far.

WaxHaX0rS · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 524

These same horns have been listed before and I believe when people asked questions about them, his responses weren't too nice. (didn't he also sell them the first time??)

bgwbold · Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 2:31 am Post subject:

I wouldn't personally bid where the UserID of the bidders are kept private. This is just my personal thing, and it would not matter who the seller is.

It is easy to set up a Yahoo user, by the way, so you can review the "ebay seller comments" group mentioned above.

Mike

Archie Sawyer · Heavyweight Member Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 668

Well, as anticipated. The seller has ended the auction early due to a "error in the listing". I think the auction was almost up to $3,000.00 when I last checked with under 20 hrs to go. Gee, he almost made it to the end!

Archie

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tptptp · Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 2:37 pm Post subject:

And he will likely contact the few REAL bidders and sweet talk them into sending him $$$$, for which he'll send some inferior horn!
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jophst · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:36 am Post subject:

This shouldn't have surprised anyone who follows his auctions. He has already contacted a friend of mine about an offer outside of Ebay.

He claimed it to be an offer he shouldn't pass up with a "money back guarantee" if he didn't like the horns.
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veldkamp · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:02 am Post subject:

Hi Trompit, you saw my Mt.Vernon 30xxx 2 weeks ago !!!!

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trompit · New Member Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 4

I did not want to tell you this but upon further research this is a valve section that someone put a bell on and then fabricated the stamp. I am sorry but Bach Mt vernon trumpets where not made this late. This is an early Elkhart that had the bell changed and a false stamp which a repairman with any reasonable skill can make.