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_FELIX C Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 422 Location: PUERTO RICO
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Friends;
For My next Class my trumpet teacher give me a piece write for a C Trumpet, I have to play It with My Bb, Thats was at the end of the class and I was very ansious to arrive Home. Please help me in the transposition From C to Bb ans vice versa
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vivace Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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if playing C music on a Bb horn, you need to take everything up one whole step, and add 2 sharps (or take away 2 flats) to the key sig.
If playing Bb music on a C horn, you need ot take everything down one whole step, and add 2 flats to the key sig (or take away 2 sharps)
good luck. _________________ "All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing no song." - Louis Armstrong |
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fuzzyjon79 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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This article should help you on transposition a lot! I know it helped me!
http://www.eddielewis.com/trumpet/essays/formula.htm _________________ J. Fowler
"It takes a big ole' sack of flour, to make a big ole' pan of biscuits!" |
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gio trumpeter Heavyweight Member
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AverageJoe Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Everybody is right on the money.
Now, a good place to begin practicing the C to Bb transposition is to get a church hymnal (which will be in C) and start playing the soprano and alto lines on your Bb. Hymn tunes are not very intimidating for the most part, so it should be a *friendly* place to start.
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gio trumpeter Heavyweight Member
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FlugelFlyer Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:56 am Post subject: |
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For what it's worth, it's a complicated but reliable thought process for me to transpose on the fly but I do it pretty much as follows:
1) Identify concert key signature
2) Add two sharps or take away two flats
3) File that in the back of your head for the time being
4) Sightread as you normally do
5) Then think up a note, but forget about the key signature
6) Once you identify the note on the staff you must play, then plug it into the key signature
What tripped me up before is I was always trying to transpose notes with say four sharps in mind, then I'd see an E written and immediately go for the F#, but I'd fumble initially, then it'd be to late. Also, if there was an F written, I'd immediately try to identify it as an F# then transpose it directly to G#, which always caused fumbling for me. Therefore, I can basically sum up my transposing as pretending there are no flats or sharps in the origional key for sake of simplicity, then simply think up a note for C-Bb transposition, then I'd only worry about the new key signature after the note is identified, I wouldn't worry about the old one. I haven't had to transpose any other way thus far, but that's been a start for me. I hope that's at least somewhat insightful. _________________ Trumpet: Bach 180LR, 72 bell
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vivace Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:06 am Post subject: |
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about the church hymnal...
When i was first learning sight transposition, I would sing as I was fingering the transposition. I know the church music very well, having sung a lot of the songs into memory. It was great practice, and I still do it subconciously sometimes during church. _________________ "All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing no song." - Louis Armstrong |
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fuzzyjon79 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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The Cafarelli book is also great for transposition... I think it's called 100 melodies or something like that. _________________ J. Fowler
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