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badebop
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the past year our big band has been performing an arrangement of "Straighten Up and Fly Right" from a Great Britain publisher. The trumpet solo calls for a "tin mute." "Tin mute!?" Never heard of it. It can't be a straight mute 'cause that's called for earlier in the chart. Question for you Brits...what's a tin mute? I've been using a straight but I want to to do it right!

[ This Message was edited by: badebop on 2004-08-15 10:41 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure "tin mute" is Brit talk for any metal, straight mute. I've seen them from Tom Crown and Denis Wick. They're probably made by other companies as well.

I'm not sure that the earlier reference to "straight mute" would necessarily rule out a "tin mute" also being straight. Could be the lst reference means conventional fiber mute and the 2nd means one made of metal.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if that's the case, I have a Tom Crown...thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Jazz expert, but I think it probably means Harmon mute. Straight mutes would typically be fibre (If this is the period I'm thinking of).

TrumpetMike will probably know. He seems to have an answer for everything!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Tin" should be a harmon, usually no stem. I play in a group that has lots of British published, well known Sinatra charts, all of which substitute the word "tin" for harmon (when compared with a recording).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2004-08-12 16:35, Clarino wrote:
I'm no Jazz expert, but I think it probably means Harmon mute. Straight mutes would typically be fibre (If this is the period I'm thinking of).

TrumpetMike will probably know. He seems to have an answer for everything!


Harmon sounds familar, although I feel I should point out - this is "jazz" man, I am out of my element here. When it comes to mutage in big bands, I follow the rest of the section. Even if I have been forced into the lead seat (which happens sometimes) I take a quick check as to what everybody else picks up.

As for me having an answer to everything - 42
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Mike....I may be wrong but I believe that you just answered the question of the meaning of life with 42!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta love the "Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did I know that trumpet players would be the ones to read that series....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read it (all 5 books in the trilogy)
Watched it (television series - have both VHS and DVD)
Listened to it (the BBC Radio Series - the original and, in my view, the best version)
Am eagerly awaiting the film.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a gig last where we played it and I stuck a Tom Crown straight in for the solo...it just didn't have that much of a tonal difference from the HB straights the band uses earlier in the chart for the rationale to specify a change...I'm thinking the plungerless Harmon might be what was desired after all for a different tone color.
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