Woody Shaw

BrassGringo · Veteran Member Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 219

God i love Woody Shaw, i do believe he is one of the greatest trumpet geniuses of all time what does everybody else think?
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jazz_trpt · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject:

Nobody could/can play like Woody.
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mateoshaw · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject:

Hey Pat!

I spoke with Woody's son, Woody III today. In case some of you don't know, he put together a website for his Dad and there are some great soundclips and information.

http://www.woodyshaw.com

Woody pipes...

-Matt-

BrassGringo · Veteran Member Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 219

Hey Matt,

Yeah you showed me that earlier and required me to watch the stepping stones video. I just love that man's playing. I felt it needed to be expressed.
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sounds7 · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:01 am Post subject:

I must say Woody is my absolute favorite jazz improvisor. Hands down. I have everything this man has ever recorded (I think) including Lp's I got back in the 70's which are out of print and never available on CD. I saw Woody play for the first time back in Memphis on his "Master of the Art" tour.(Early 1980's) He had two of my Memphis State (Now U of M) comrads in the band. Tony Reatus and Mulgrew Miller. The night started out intense and never let up. Woody was pure energy and he left me on the edge of my seat all night. A true Musical Genius and it is a tragedy he never became popular like other trumpeters and made more money.The story's of his death are also very sadening. Many said he sounded like Freddie Hubbard in his early days but the man really forged a new frontier for the Trumpet. Congratulations to Woody III on his website, It is a much needed link I will now be sending my trumpet students to.
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mark936 · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject:

Woody played like he was in pain. Lots of vertical lines rather than flowing lines like Freddie. Definitely not like Freddie although at first I thought so.

IMHO

I really love Woody's "Solid" album.

sounds7 · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject:

Screamin Mothers? No, I guess I should have said recorded under his own name.Although I do have quite a few of his side projects as well. including the more recent stuff he did after he moved to Europe. I would like to find this "Screamin Mothers though. Who else is on there? and is Woody playing much on there?

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various artists -- Screamin' Mothers; Mainstream 806, 1974 (2LP)

You know you just set me out on a mission.

[ This Message was edited by: sounds7 on 2004-08-17 23:34 ]

bluenote · Veteran Member Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 366

I wish they would reissue 'Stepping Stones: Live at the Village Vanguard."

sounds7 · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject:

Yep Stepping Stone was the recording that got me started on Woody Shaw. I had it first on 8 track tape. (Ha Ha giving my age away) Then I got the LP as a cutout at a local Peaches records back when I was living in Memphis. Still among my favorite Woody.

jazz_trpt · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject:

"Screaming Mothers" is the biggest tease with the worst payoff in my history of buying vinyl. All-star large ensemble (I recall that Snooky Young is in the trumpet section) playing really, really, really dated instrumental arrangements of rock tunes. No solos.

Just checking to see whether you had them *all*.

I finally broke down and converted "Stepping Stones" to CD. You can get it as part of the Mosaic set, but not by itself at this point. That was my first WS album...definitely some great stuff.
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mark936 · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject:

I went to the used CD store today and looked for "Screaming Mothers" no luck. They had three WS albums. (2) Woody III and 1 Master of the Art.

$3.70 and $1.85.

sounds7 · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject:

The recording that is not included in that mosaic special edition set or any of the re- release CD's is "Lotus Flower". I take notice of that because I did a solo transcription from that LP in my Improv. class (1980 something). Anyone else ever try to transcribe Woody? Those akward seventuplets ccombined with the linear lines is hell to transcribe let me tell you!

bluenote · Veteran Member Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 366

Jeff:

Actually, 'Stepping Stones: Live at the VV" is not part of the Mosaic set (unless they've recently added it). That set only includes the studio recordings.

Jason Palmer · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:37 am Post subject:

I've got a bootleg of Woody and Wynton in the early eighties. Not that anyone would care though. Great cuttin session though.

Jason Palmer · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:38 am Post subject:

I've got a bootleg of Woody and Wynton in the early eighties. Not that anyone would care though. Great cuttin session though.

Jason Palmer · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:38 am Post subject:

I've got a bootleg of Woody and Wynton in the early eighties. Not that anyone would care though. Great cuttin session though.

sounds7 · Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject:

Actually Jason, I would love to get a copy of that recording.

Martin · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:48 am Post subject:

I´m sure you have Dexter Gordon´s "Sophisticated Giant".

But what about that live record by the George Gruntz Concert Jazz Band on MPS?
And that one "Montreux Summit" album from the 70s with Woody duelling Maynard?

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jazz_trpt · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:37 am Post subject:

How about "Introducing Kenny Garrett"?