Dubba C in 37 Weeks?

vivace · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: Dubba C in 37 Weeks?

So is this method for real. I heard about it, and when looking through the music library, I found it, and got it to look at it.

It seems reasonable, but I dunno. The whole pucker lip thing sorta seems weird to me.

Who has used this? Even if I don't get to a dubba C, It would be nice to build high range.
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dbacon · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 8592

Forget it, practice Stamp or Schlossberg. Adam, etc. I practiced from this book in H.S. when it first came out. Claude Gordon is a much better approach with some similarity (Maggio influence, Claude does so much better!). Resting a day in between is a wasted day of no practice.

Who was Roger Spaulding anyway?

histrumpet · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:33 pm Post subject:

This may be one of the rare times I agree with Dave, Yeah...what he said.

crzytptman · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:34 pm Post subject:

I like his hair in the picture.

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vivace · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject:

trpt.hick · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject:

Spaulding did study for awhile with Maggio. The basic exercises are fine..... but the every-other-day of practice, play higher and higher until no notes sound three attempts in a row ("three strikes, you're out," he says), etc. is a bit overboard. Not very practical, either.

Claude Gordon once told me that one of his (Gordon's) students wanted lessons with Spaulding, but Spaulding insisted that the student play ONLY from his book, and ONLY every other day. The students was a somewhat active semi-pro and needed to play gigs when called. Spaulding refused to take him as a student.

The method is sort of a knock off of the Maggio or Gordon books, and applies some of the early body building (Charles Atlas) routines. I have the book and tried it. Seemed to build power but was not very practical because of its every other day routine schedule and lack of supplemental exercises such as those integrated into the Gordon system.

Dave Hickman

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Jonny Boy · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject:

Hey there,

Why wait 37 weeks? I have a book called Double C in 10 Minutes!

Walt Johnson must have laughed all the way to the bank!

babyimanARCHIST · Veteran Member Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 189

Dubba C in 10 minutes... you're kidding right?

babyimanARCHIST · Veteran Member Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 189

Well hold on... it's not really Double C in 10 minutes, it is like an exercise that you work on for 10 minutes a day?

trpt.hick · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject:

No, it is a published book titled "Double High C in Ten Minutes" by Walt Johnson. It is published by Madajo Music Company, but looks rather self published. (A bound photocopy-type book.....writing only on one side of the 30 pages.)

The basic idea is to have two embouchure settings. He calls them "high gear" and "low gear." The lips are set normally for "low gear." When playing above the staff and higher, he advocates switching to the "high gear" where the lower lip tucks completely under the top lip so that no red shows on the bottom.

Hey, if it works.......?

Dave Hickman

Welk · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject:

Doing a Caruso routine each day, I've played a few Dubbah aftersomething like 20-22 weeks... I was able to play High C relativly easily before starting it!
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vivace · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:17 pm Post subject:

I got the Schlossburg today. I will look into gordon and caruso. I am not really looking to be a jazz screamer, just a good, high solid range, up to an F or G with good tone, solidity, and not popping too many blood vessels

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Jonny Boy · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:20 am Post subject:

trpt.hick wrote

Jonny Boy · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:23 am Post subject:

How do I get rid of the word Quote in my previous post?

vivace · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:28 am Post subject:

EddieLewis · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:49 am Post subject:

I'm impressed with Mr. Hickman's knowledge of the less traditional literature. A lot of teachers have ignored these books and passed the authors off as quacks. It's good to know that at least ONE big time teacher was at least currious enough to find out.

I personally DO believe in the concept of resting every other day. However, I don't believe that this rest requires you to be off of the horn completely for that day. You can scale things down a lot and that way you still have the practice time you need but with less demands placed on the chops.

Oh, and I guess I should also say that, for me, it's not every other day. And maybe this is because I don't lay completely off of the horn every other day.....but I typically do a three day rotation.

tpter1 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1194

Maybe it's just me, but anything that has "Dubba C" on it tends to sound sort of, well, like one of those really bad used car salsemen jokes. (Sort of like calling itself a gimmick?) I would be interested in actually seeing the book...for a joke. Does it have a picture of a melted bell or peeling paint or the biohazard symbol on it?

Seriously, though, what is the content of the method? Is it musical or does it promote musicianship or just allow you the stunt of a "dubba c" (like the Tastee Bros? Ever heard their Hummel? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!)

Jerry Freedman · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject:

trpt.hick · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject:

The exercises in the Spaulding book are somewhat the same as in the Claude Gordon books. Spaulding does not suggest any supplemental books to use along with it, although the Gordon books do.

I have heard that Spaulding did not want you to play AT ALL on the days off. He also advocated playing until NO NOTES SOUND.....completely wasted!

Spaulding studied with Maggio. Other than that, people don't seem to know much about Roger Spaulding (lived in LA area). Anyone know?

DH