How many of you guys actually have an F/G horn...

JGulyas

And who wants to sell one to me???

Really though, how many of y'all have one and how often do you use it? I've wanted one for years and in my quintet would actually use it every day.

I recently saw two of them for sale on Dillon's website. Both were Yamaha 9710s and both were selling at $975. Both of them were also gone within a couple of days.

So, who's willing to let theirs go? I asked my teacher if he'd sell me his and he just laughed (oddly enough the same laugh when I asked about his Scherzer picc, as I want one of those too).

Any takers? Please? Pretty please??

John
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trumpetmike · Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject:

I have a Scherzer G and you can have it over my dead body

What would you use it for in a quintet? I play in a few quintets and this is probably the instrument I use least in any of them. I haven't yet come across any pieces written for one.

Still, we all like new toys - best of luck in your search.

JackD · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:33 am Post subject:

Mahler seemed to write a lot for F trumpet - would his orchestras actually have used them?

trumpetmike · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:38 am Post subject:

I believe I am right in saying that the F trumpets that Mahler (Sibelius, Elgar and others of that time) wrote for wasn't the F piccolo trumpet, but the large F trumpet.
You can play some of the parts on an F piccolo, but the sound will be very different to how it was originally heard.

The F trumpet was the main orchestral instrument (in the UK anyway) about one hundred years ago. There do still exist a few in the archives, but many of them either got too much abuse or were converted to Bb over time.

JackD · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:46 am Post subject:

Ah - interesting. They used those on the 'Lord of the Rings' soundtracks!

trumpetmike · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:47 am Post subject:

Really?
Who played them?
Where did they find them??
How did you find out???

JackD · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:59 am Post subject:

Mike - Paul Archibald told me. He said Paul Beniston organised the F trumpets (they weren't used exclusively) - other players were Andy Crowley, John Barclay, Maurice Murphy, Dan Newall and Tom Rainer.

Not suprisingly, given who worked on these films, theres some great playing on the soundtrack!

JGulyas · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:13 am Post subject:

drtrumpet1 · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:13 am Post subject:

I've got a Stomvi Elite F/G trumpet for sale. I'll have to check the cost, but it would be more than what the Yamahas would have costed. If you're interested, let me know.
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ken_fung · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:11 am Post subject:

I have got a Yamaha F/G....got it from eBay (thought it was quite a bargain) and hope it can save the trouble of clumsy fingerings of the Vivaldi on the A picc.

Well, ended up performing the Vivaldi on the A...playing E flat major on the A is not much harder than F major on the G. So, 9 months after getting the horn, I have only played it for less than 5 minutes total!

WAKeele · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:08 am Post subject:

I've got a Schilke G. Very nice horn indeed. I need to get an F bell and sildes one of these days. I was messing around the other day with my Stomvi Eb bell on it and it worked pretty darn well on the Hummel. I'd like to try it with F sildes on it though.
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nextbrassguy · Heavyweight Member Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 1428

I've said in a post in another TH thread that I think a four valve G seems just about ideal for much of the baroque literature. Trouble is, at $2700 or so and up at the moment, they're just out of my price range.

Well, maybe one day!

nieuwguyski · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:59 am Post subject:

JGulyas · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:22 am Post subject:

JGulyas · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:30 am Post subject:

trombapaul2 · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject: F/G

Who wants an F/G horn? ME! ME! ME!

I love using the smaller horns in my quintet. I think having a distinctly
different 5th voice adds loads of colors and overtones. I use my Eb
and Picc whenever I can. I know you can get a NEW Stomvi Elite F/G
for about $1850.00 from Cambrass (last time I checked, they had 1 in
stock). I also know someone who might have a 3 valve model Schilke
G1L they'd be willing to sell. They won it on ebay about a year and a
half ago thinking it was the 4 valve model G1L-4. He paid (if I recall
correctly) $1931.00 for it. If you're interested, I'll check with him and
put you in touch with him. The "guy" in question is David Kuehn (he
performed at ITG this year).

Paul
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ken_fung · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject:

Sooner · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:23 am Post subject:

david johnson · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:01 am Post subject:

i played a schilke G & it felt like the axe just played itself. astonishing.
don't have one, though.

dj

JGulyas · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject:

OK,

So I call Kanstul today and talk to "the man" about building me a custom F/G horn with a larger, C trumpet type bell flare and how much it would cost. He tells me to send him a fax with the specs I want and he'd build it (with my money of course) and have some local guys play it to see how it feels.

My question is for those of you who have played one of these things with C tpt bells cut to F and G. How did it play, feel, etc? Was it in tune? Did it project well? What was the sound like? Darker or just foggier?

I'm planning on using it in my brass quintet.

Thanks.
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US Navy Bandsman 1996-2010 (Trumpet; Audio Engineer)
Mpc - Kanstul/Monette B6, Hammond Design custom "JG"
Bb - Yamaha 6335HGSII
C - Eastman ETR530
Picc - NoName Chinese