Double Tongue

[MrTrumpetDude]

Ive been playing trumpet for about 3yrs now and I need to learn to double tongue, How exactly is it done and how long will it take to learn?

[jophst]

The best way I learned it was by repeating the syllables digga digga digga, etc. over and over again.

For the lower tones, "dagga, dagga, dagga, etc." ... then try all this one your mouthpiece while buzzing.

You will probably need to start by developing the "Ka" syllable.

Try tonguing a scale in 8th notes without the Ta syllable and using only the Ka syllable.

It will take a little time, but it will better and better for you. Be sure to practice with a metronome as well.

Good luck and welcome to the TH!!!
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[MrTrumpetDude]

Ty I'll go try that out, Ty for the welcome

[tpetplyr]

Working through the excersizes in the Arban's is a good way to start. I actually learned on the Hummel cto (3rd mvt) but it wasnt polished till after some work in the arbans. Also just doing it over and over and listening to the sound is the best way to learn it. Just double time some of your favorite pieces when you wanna see how good you REALLY are:)

Stuart
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[Meldog]

Also remember to keep blowing. If you stop your air after each articulation it will sound very choppy and machine gun like. Just remember to keep blowing. Also, check out some cornet solo recordings like Gerard Schwarz and really listen to how it sounds and how you want it to sound. Get that mental picture you want!!
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[JackD]

Take the double tongueing exercises in Arban, slow them right down, and play each phrase twice, once with "ta" and once with "ka" - try to get a consistent attack between the different articulations.

That's what my teacher got me to do - I think it's a good exercise.

[Peter Bond]

[308WIN]

Peter makes great points,
The only thing I would add is to NOT neglect single tounging. When I really started working on multiple tonguing in college, my teacher had me go through all the Arban triple tonguing section single tongued first. In addition we did alot of the "one minute study". We also did some of the earlier Arban triple tonguing "K" tongued only (but not too much, because too much "K" tonguing can be fatiguing = stiffness). After we did that, then we went on to the triple tonguing. I would also get more comfortable with triple tounging first and then move on to double. Logically, if you can triple tongue well, double tonguing shouldn't be a problem.

HTH
Rich

[RGale]

Great Advice, Mr. Bond. Thanks.

[razeontherock]

Great advice from Mr. Bond. I would only add to listen to Rafael Mendez. He had a pretty serious speech impediment, and having to learn to overcome this forced him into a very disciplined approach which he credits for his techinque. As a child he practiced double tonguing so much he was nicknamed tu-ku-took.

[Peter Bond]

[fuzzyjon79]

There is a great book called "240 Double and Triple Tonguing Excercises" by Victor Salvo that is wonderful!!
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[RBtrumpet08]

i was looking at this thread and would like to say thanks for all the help, even though it wasnt necessarily directed at me cuz i need to learn to double tongue for a christmas selection our band it playing. Its an arrangement of we wish you a merry christmas where we are playing a sixteenth note run at 152 to the quarter note. ouch not fun for a beginner lol. especially when it is a trumpet and flute feature so we have to play a little softer so "we can play on the same level" as our director said. well actually maybe it wont be that soft, cuz our director's buying some cup mutes. oh well ive rambled on too long. thx again.
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[trpt.hick]

RAZEONTHEROCK:

Mendez did NOT have any sort of speech impediment. True, his single tongue was slow for some reason, but I have never heard of any sort of speech impediment.

Dave Hickman

[tpter1]

In addition to using Arban's, go to Herbert Clarke's Technical studies and Characterisitic Studies books. Use a K syllable on all of any of the studies; begin with second study, go to the trilling study, then brach out to the others. Alternate tonguing patterns creatively. There are some single and double tongue studies at the beginning of the Characteristic studies. Use both as double tonguing studies.

The major issue with multiple tonguing is not only speed and clenliness, but endurance, as well. Many repeated (slow at first!) excercises (with breaks to avoid stiffness in the chops) will build strength and consistency. You will at times need to begin in the middle of the tonguing pattern, such as on the last 3 sixteenths (ku-tu-ku).

Remember that speed and clenliness come from slow, methodical, consistent practice. Some take to multiple tonguing rather quickly; others take years. Be patient; be consistent.
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[Peter Bond]

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"Try to avoid letting your technique determine how you will sound. Rather, develop your musical taste (through listening and study), and let it inform and guide your technique."

Peter, we've never met but thanks so much for saying the above. Small glimmers of light make these pages worthwhile...

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