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Tl2uMp3t_Er
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 Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: What makes a trumpet worth a lot!? |
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Okay, these days, I find many trumpets that are way too overpriced, IMHO. Why do you guys think that the trumpets have so much different value when you first see it, it looks the same? And what also makes it sound great? Is it changable if variables are changed around? Is it the materials? Is it the work put in to it? Is it the looks? Please tell me your opinion on it. Thx for all the ideas in advance 
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the chief
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| Quote: | | What makes a trumpet worth a lot!? |
The price that it fetches on ebay 
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Tl2uMp3t_Er
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| the chief wrote: | | Quote: | | What makes a trumpet worth a lot!? |
The price that it fetches on ebay |
Seriously, I'm really curious why there is so much cost differences between beginner horns and pro horns/artist horns. Although I had played a beginner horn and own a pro horn, all i feel different about them is the look, the finishing, and the tone. Are tones worth that much?
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FatPauly
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Same thing that makes any commodity with different levels of production units have a range in price. Rarity, workmanship, quality of materials, extra effort to make sure every step of production is correctly executed, etc.
Ferraris cost more than Fords, caviar costs more than chicken, and Monettes cost more than Bachs.
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| Tl2uMp3t_Er wrote: | | the chief wrote: | | Quote: | | What makes a trumpet worth a lot!? |
The price that it fetches on ebay |
Seriously, I'm really curious why there is so much cost differences between beginner horns and pro horns/artist horns. Although I had played a beginner horn and own a pro horn, all i feel different about them is the look, the finishing, and the tone. Are tones worth that much? |
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bandman322
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| Quote: | | Ferraris cost more than Fords, caviar costs more than chicken, and Monettes cost more than Bachs. |
Well said! I would add that the main thing that adds to cost are the hands on time of a true craftsman. Labor = cost increase. The thing that makes the superhorns super is the fact that a craftsman spends days hand working the horn until it is close to perfect. That is why each hand made horn has its own personality, yet overall the brand is more consistent that those made mainly by machine.
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Tl2uMp3t_Er
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| bandman322 wrote: | | Quote: | | Ferraris cost more than Fords, caviar costs more than chicken, and Monettes cost more than Bachs. |
Well said! I would add that the main thing that adds to cost are the hands on time of a true craftsman. Labor = cost increase. The thing that makes the superhorns super is the fact that a craftsman spends days hand working the horn until it is close to perfect. That is why each hand made horn has its own personality, yet overall the brand is more consistent that those made mainly by machine. |
Well, Ferraris are actually faster and better looking, caviar tastes better than the chicken, and Trumpets...This all depends on the player.
Even if a student had a pro horn(like me), would he play or sound better than the professional with beginner horn? not neccessarily. However, I do agree with all the rarity and the craftsmanship, which does add a huge amount of money. Any more ideas? It didn't really solve my question...   
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| Tl2uMp3t_Er wrote: | | Are tones worth that much? |
Yes. There's your answer. Tone, intonation, tolerances--these separate most beginner horns from most pro horns.
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Quote: "caviar tastes better than the chicken"
Say whut!??? |
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