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Simply Swingin' Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 525 Location: Atlanta, Georgia.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: Monette Poll. |
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How many of you would pay for a Monette if you had the money?
I don't exactly know if I would. Although I can't say anything till I've played one. _________________ "Behold, I make all things new."- Jesus Christ, God Almighty
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trpt.hick Rafael Méndez Forum Moderator
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 2632
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bandman322 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 2259 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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no _________________ C - Harrelson 750 Modified Bach Strad
Picc - Schilke P5-4
Flugel - Kanstul ZKF1525
Bb - Bach Strad 180ML-37
"To be a teacher you need to be as good a performer as you can be: you'll have more to impart to your students musically." - John Haynie |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5698 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I might buy one of the lighter weight Monettes if I had the cash. But then again, I might just buy an Eclipse, or a Lawler or a Schilke instead. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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_swthiel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 1423 Location: Porkopolis, USA (Cincinnati, OH)
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think I would ... I still need to get a picc and I'm still pondering the idea of getting an alto trumpet someday. If I were forced to buy a more expensive Bb or C trumpet (beyond the Bach/Kanstul price range), I'd probably get an Eclipse.
I am simply not a good enough player that moving beyond my trusty Strad or my Chicago would really make that big a difference ... and think of how many lessons I could get for the price of a Monette! _________________ Steve Thiel
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JasonHarrelson Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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There is no shame in owning a Monette. Although Dave really doesn't like my name, I have played several of his horns and have yet to find anything negative about any of them. My personal favorite is the Ajna II. However, my Bach 905 plays a tad better.
I hear Manny Laureano (MN Orchestra) play on Monettes all the time and I'm not kidding, his sound is out of this world. I would like to have a full set of Monette trumpets in my showroom/trumpet museum (someday), some of which customers could pick up and play along side a wide assortment of many other horns including my own.
Jason Harrelson _________________ Harrelson Trumpets
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romey1 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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No way - none of them sound like a trumpet.
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cjdjazztpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2004 Posts: 1534 Location: Nashville, TN/ New Orleans, LA
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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romey1 wrote: | No way - none of them sound like a trumpet.
romey |
The new XLT Commercial Bb's sound better than any horn Dave has ever made.(in my opinion of course) About 4 years ago I would have shelled out the $$$ for the Monette, now I would not.
I will say this that Dave's XLT Commercial Bb's are VERY trumpet sounding and they scream and darken up as needed. I think Dave is starting to catch on to the whole "lighter isn't necessarily bad" idea. And his horns are sounding better and better too.
The problem is that the new Commercial Bb's (XLT) are $8,200 in raw with an extra $900 for the brush Gold plating and another $2,400 for the Prana upgrade....That is absolutle ridiculous! Problem is that people actually pay that much for their horns! Geez! That's $11,500 just for a 'lightweight' commercial horn....What is this world coming to? Just think what it would cost for one of the bigger, heavier, 'more time consuming' horns that he makes. I could probably put a REALLY NICE downpayment on a brand new house for that!!! |
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JSTpt1 Regular Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 92 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Call me a sucker (and I know that some of you will) but I would love to own one. I really don't think its the marketing machine that has me hooked, I just happen to agree with his concept of sound. If I could sound like Terence Blanchard for a day, I think I would die happy. And yes I practice like crazy, so I know that thats how they got there, not by dropping 15 g on a horn. But yeah, if I had the money, I'd be on the first plane down to Portland to set him up making me a big, heavy, dark as hell 24k brushed gold trumpet.
... On the other hand, my girlfriend asked me today: "If you want to sound like a trombone, why don't you just play trombone?" I don't have an answer yet... _________________ Bb Lawler TL6R-2
C Bach 229 25A
Picc Kanstul CCT-920S
Monette B1-1, B1-5L, C1-1 mpc |
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SHS_Trumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2001 Posts: 1809 Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:34 am Post subject: Misquote |
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cjdjazztpt wrote: | romey1 wrote: | No way - none of them sound like a trumpet.
romey |
The new XLT Commercial Bb's sound better than any horn Dave has ever made.(in my opinion of course) About 4 years ago I would have shelled out the $$$ for the Monette, now I would not.
I will say this that Dave's XLT Commercial Bb's are VERY trumpet sounding and they scream and darken up as needed. I think Dave is starting to catch on to the whole "lighter isn't necessarily bad" idea. And his horns are sounding better and better too.
The problem is that the new Commercial Bb's (XLT) are $8,200 in raw with an extra $900 for the brush Gold plating and another $2,400 for the Prana upgrade....That is absolutle ridiculous! Problem is that people actually pay that much for their horns! Geez! That's $11,500 just for a 'lightweight' commercial horn....What is this world coming to? Just think what it would cost for one of the bigger, heavier, 'more time consuming' horns that he makes. I could probably put a REALLY NICE downpayment on a brand new house for that!!! |
I'm looking at the latest price list as I type and the XLT is $5700 raw brass, and $8550 rawbrass prana. _________________ Andrew Fowler
MYNWA
"90% of trumpet music is below high C" |
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Kenny Roe Regular Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 84 Location: Bristol, Connecticut
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:22 am Post subject: |
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My colleague, Ravi Best, allowed me to try his new 994WJ PRANA and all I could say was WOW! While I do not know if this particualr model is right for me, if I had the bread, I would definitely check out what Dave M could make for me. FWIW I love his mouthpieces. _________________ Kenny
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etownfwd Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 468 Location: Pottsville, PA
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I am on both sides of this issue... I was on the outside looking in for MANY years and finally this past July, my position changed. Now I own a Monette and I really believe that they are even better than advertised. I have one of the Prana horns and it is the best thing for me. However, I advise all players to take any second-hand info about Monettes with a grain of salt. Formulate your own opinions about gear and then go unabashedly in the direction you enjoy. I love my Monette and I am not afraid to say it!
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cujazztrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 697 Location: Jacksonville,FL
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:00 am Post subject: |
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It would probably depend how filty rich I would be, If 10 grand is just change I will probably go for it other than that I would rather buy several Lawler, Schilke, Taylor and vintage gems especially vintage horns! _________________ Playing music is better than playing notes!
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cujazztrpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Im sure monette's are good horn's,,, as good as any other professional horn like Schilke, Bach, Blackburn, Eclipse etc.! Just a matter of taste. _________________ Playing music is better than playing notes!
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thatleadguy Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 293
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:09 am Post subject: |
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It seems to me like there is a LOT of ignorance out there about Dave's work. Take a visit to his shop. It will change your life. I'm not going to try to sell his stuff to you guys, that's his job.
Don't get angry - just be aware that there are some very terrible misconceptions out there. If any person has a question about monette horns or would like to have a civilized conversation about his work, send me an e-mail. If you just wanna have a pissing match, don't bother.
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Kenny Roe Regular Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 84 Location: Bristol, Connecticut
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I think it really comes down to what works for you and what you are comfortable with financially. I have tried and would love to own a Monette trumpet but in my current situation, my wife would have a less than enthusiastic reaction to a purchase. Will that change? Hopefully. Do I like my Bach 43? Absolutely. Best horn I have ever owned. Does it play like a Monette? Not in any way.
We each need to find what we are comfortable with and enjoy it. The music is the most important, not what horn the cat next to us plays or how much he chose to spend.
It's all about the sound. _________________ Kenny |
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Redhothorn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2001 Posts: 1173
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:53 am Post subject: Whatever Floats Your Boat |
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I'd love to try one of the light weights out. If I really fell in love with it, I'd shoot toward owning one. At present, this is how I feel about the Schilke Model S-42 ... which happens to be cheaper. A smart person will play what works for them regardless of the weight or horn producer. |
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WAKeele Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 390 Location: Eureka, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Yeah maybe. It would probably be like a 993, 997, prana. Something like that. I had to be making some good money playing the trumpet to do it though. Monette has some good ideas behind his horns, but so does some other guys out there. Only time will tell. _________________ WAK
Ace Hardware Hoseophone w/heavy-weight funnel
Bach 20C Megatone (gold plated) w/ 30 throat
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steve_fenick Veteran Member
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 376
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:44 am Post subject: |
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First, let me say that I absolutely love the sound Manny gets in the videos on the Monette website. I think he would get that sound on anything he played, but he is happy with Monette equipment, and I am happy that he has found what works for him.
Having said that, I like the way some of the Monette equipment sounds, but I would never own one even if I had money to burn. I just think he overcharges for his equipment, and that you don't get as much "bang for your buck." I mean, if I am going to pay $6,000 - $12,000 for a horn, I would expect it to be correspondingly better than the competition. Some of Monette's stuff is good, but it isn't that good. Of course, that is only my opinion, but if it's my dollar that I am spending, then my opinion is the one that counts! |
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ken_fung Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 439 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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I know it is a very sensitive issue...
I personally do not have any issue with the Monette prices. I know nearly all violinists in my orchestra play instruments that can be a few times more expensive than a Monette. The bassoonist's Heckel is a few times more expensive than a Samadhi...it is just if you think the price is justified.
I own a few Monettes so I am a believer. I will receive another Monette for a friend either tomorrow or early next week...if it plays significantly better than my current ones, I wouldn't hesitate to place another order! _________________ Greetings from Hong Kong,
Ken
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