Hardest pieces?

trumpet1 · Veteran Member Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 218

I haven't been playin long but the hardest one that I came across was flight of the Bumble bee. Carnival of Venice Arban version wasn't too bad...

Anything extrmly hard that you guys have came across?

trickg · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:44 am Post subject:

Anyone that describes the Arban's "Carnival of Venice" with all variations(?) as not "too bad" has far more skills than I because I never got to the point where I could play all variations with ease. My hat is off to you.

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RyanMoser · New Member Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 10

If you want a really hard book that would take you more than a year to perfect, that book is 'Vassily Brandt's Etudes for Trumpet (Orchestra Etudes and Last Etudes)'. I've had this book for 2 weeks, and I'm still trying to critique and perfect the 1st etude! This whole book is full of some of the hardest etudes.
-Ryan

mumbles · Regular Member Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 87

Try the Bitsch etudes.
there a b**ch. get it hahaah.
hahaha.
hahahaha
get it?
hhah...
sorry...it's late.

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redface · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:38 am Post subject:

how about :
Luciano Berio - Sequenza X
Peter maxwell Davies - Trumpet concerto
H. W. Henze - Sonatina

They are all really really really hard.

Emb_Enh · Veteran Member Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Posts: 455

well this IS the 'solo' section of the forum

...how about...

"Maynard Ferguson" by Shorty Rogers

"Don't let the sun go down on me" [Paul Cacia]

"MacArthur Park" [MF]

...or if you're talking classical gas....

"The Titan suite" [Bud Brisbois]

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B_Starry · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 4:32 am Post subject:

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Pedro · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 539

I have to echo Ryan on this one. The Brandt studies are extremely challenging. Hey Ryan, its good to know that I'm not the ONLY one STILL trying to perfect the first etude! Although this one is not "Technical", I'd also like to put my bid in for the Concone Lyrical Studies. Beautiful and yet extremely challenging stuff!

dwm1129 · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:16 am Post subject:

I just got finished going through the Brandt book and it was tough, but alot of fun too. Something that is posing more difficulty for me is the Bousquet.....The thing is when I bought it I ordered it online and they sent me the book for tuba, I read bass clef pretty well, but not when stuff is going down 4 ledger lines and going by as fast as your eyes can follow it. But anything I have come across lately that is bass clef seems like a joke compared to this.

trumpetnerd7 · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:33 am Post subject:

if you want some impossible solos, go check out Wynton Marsalis' Carnival Book. Moto perpetuo, sounds from the hudson, napoli, the debutante.........ugh
scott cook

pedaltonekid · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1711

Check out Allen Vizzuti's Carnival of Venus. The opening lick goes to double C and there is an insane amount of large interval double tongueing.
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Mr. Stomvi · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Apr 2002 Posts: 1062

I was taking a picc lesson about a month ago and mentioned to my prof. that I had been reading in either the Webster or Hickman books that they recommended doing the Clarke Technical Studies using the 3,4,5th fingers instead of the normal 2,3,4th. I asked him if he felt this would be useful for developing strength in the 5th finger for the 4th valve on the picc. He asked me "Oh you mean like this" and proceeded to start ripping off the excercises in the first and second study from memory using the 3,4,and 5th fingers at marked max tempo and beyond. I was of course amazed especially when he mentioned that the Mendez version of "Carnival of Venice" was much harder. Mendez version I asked ? Yea - you know the one finger version - and he proceeded to play the one finger Mendez version of "Carnaval of Venice" at full clip from memory. Unbelievable !!! Give the Clarke studies a try sometime with the alternate fingering if you really want to see what hard is.

Seth Moore

bobwhite · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:14 pm Post subject:

There's a piece called "Space is a Diamond" by Lucia Dlugosiewski (unsure of spelling) that was recorded by Gerard Schwarz in the 1970's. I think a reissue is available. The music was published by Margun and may or may not be out of print.

Anyway, this is the most amazingly impossible piece I've ever heard a trumpeter play. I can't even describe it. Try to listen to it if you can find it, or check a University music library for the music.

Nicholas Dyson · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:41 pm Post subject:

RJ · Veteran Member Joined: 27 Nov 2001 Posts: 121

Lucia Dlugoszewski- Space Is A Diamond (1970) recorded by Gerard Schwartz

Kenneth Gaburo- Mouth-Piece: Sextet for Solo Trumet (1970)

Berio- Sequenza X (1984)

vivace · Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 4:34 am Post subject:

How bout bach? All his stuff is hard.
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funkymonkey · Regular Member Joined: 10 Dec 2001 Posts: 65

Firebird or something.. by Stravinsky?

I heard that was a pretty challenging part..

RJ · Veteran Member Joined: 27 Nov 2001 Posts: 121

Fanfare for a New Theatre- that one is lots of fun. great for the 5 and 7 subdivision too

trumpet1 · Veteran Member Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 218

I have never heard of Brandonburg 2...it's suppose to be hard but Brandonburg one was almost like Canon...

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