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JohnnyChemo Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: Tuner died, need recommendation on a new one! |
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Well, my old Korg AT-12 bit the dust today. What is out there that can give me the same quality and features?
Since this tuner is about 20 years old, it's likely not many people know what it does, so here are the features I find most attractive-
-pitch generator - goes from around pedal D to C# above the staff on trumpet, if there is one with a wider range great, but I'd like to get something with at least the same range
-analog meter (needle) - seems more responsive
-use adapter or batteries
-earpiece optional
Price isn't really an issue, esp if I'll get another 20 years out of it.
So what is the best replacement for the old beast?
BTW- I'd consider a tuner metronome combo, but I've got a DB-66 (about the same age) which is still going strong. If there was a combo that gives me the same quality/features of the the tuner and met I've had, I'd probably go for it.
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tpetplyr Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Jul 2002 Posts: 1669 Location: Boston
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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The newer Korg pocket tuners are quite nice. I need to replace mine soon cause my old one walked away (i wasnt THAT out of tune, i swear). Theyre about $20, and if you can remember where you put them, they'll last equally as long.
Stuart _________________ "So long, and thanks for all the fish!" -- Dolphins |
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BigBadWolf Heavyweight Member
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Slidebone Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 233 Location: NYC
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Tuner died, need recommendation on a new one! |
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JohnnyChemo wrote: | Well, my old Korg AT-12 bit the dust today. What is out there that can give me the same quality and features?
Since this tuner is about 20 years old, it's likely not many people know what it does, so here are the features I find most attractive-
-pitch generator - goes from around pedal D to C# above the staff on trumpet, if there is one with a wider range great, but I'd like to get something with at least the same range
-analog meter (needle) - seems more responsive
-use adapter or batteries
-earpiece optional
Price isn't really an issue, esp if I'll get another 20 years out of it.
So what is the best replacement for the old beast?
BTW- I'd consider a tuner metronome combo, but I've got a DB-66 (about the same age) which is still going strong. If there was a combo that gives me the same quality/features of the the tuner and met I've had, I'd probably go for it.
Thanks in advance! |
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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...For a moment, you had me there...(gotta get my eyes checked)...thought Tina (Turner) died !
Another recommendation for the Peterson...it's worth the money.
Robert Rowe
"...you cain't polish a turd!..." (old Southern expression) |
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JohnnyChemo Regular Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2002 Posts: 49
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:38 am Post subject: |
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The Peterson model is really enticing, but I think I'm leaning toward the Korg OT-12. Similar in function to the Peterson without the strobe or metronome, and less than half the cost. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:30 am Post subject: |
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The best Korg CA-30. Like 20 dollars in most places. Good and economic. try to found a good camera to care it. _________________ God's Peace be with all you!!!!!!!!
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5682 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:01 am Post subject: |
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FELIX C wrote: | The best Korg CA-30. Like 20 dollars in most places. Good and economic. try to found a good camera to care it. |
That's what I have and it's truly a fantastic little tuner. I guess it depends on what you want out of it. I have a bell pickup for mine so that I can use it in the loud environment of a rock band, but at the same time you can plug an electric guitar chord into it and tune that too. It's also lightweight enough that I have it velcroed to my stand.
It's also fairly rugged. I have dropped mine on a number of occasions, popping the back completely off of it, but it's like a Timex - it takes a licking and keeps on ticking.
One other last little cool thing about it, it takes standard AAA batteries. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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gregc Veteran Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 345 Location: NY, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:13 am Post subject: |
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THe Peterson virtual strobe tuners are the very best, specially for the $. Best tuner I've ever used~ I use em to intonate my guitars, they're that good.
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cujazztrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 697 Location: Jacksonville,FL
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Your ears. Or the pianist in the band during the 1st song. _________________ Playing music is better than playing notes!
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bandman322 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 2259 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I love my Peterson V-SAM Virtual Strobe. I have had it for about a month and it does more than some of the old full size Petersons. The nice things about it are the battery features and the fact it will read out your entire ensemble on one strobe.
It finds your pitch automatically and you can use it for learning/testing a new horn for intonation characteristics. It is also so easy to use that the students in my middle school band program use it with no trouble. _________________ C - Harrelson 750 Modified Bach Strad
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bigbrowncow Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 124 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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At the moment I use this http://www.phonature.com/home/products_PhonTuner.htm which runs on my mobile phone, which always causes a few raised eyebrows.
As you'll see from my recent post in fundamentals, I rely on ears for tuning and just use the phone for establishing tuning notes. I even have a tuning fork lying around somewhere.
I would love a Peterson tuner though - I wouldn't use it much but they are very cool.
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5682 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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cujazztrpt wrote: | Your ears. Or the pianist in the band during the 1st song. |
That's all fine and dandy in a perfect world, but what if you are in a rock band, where the volume is louder and you might be blowing a bit harder? I use the tuner as a means to check my intonation so that I don't chop myself out lipping it up or down too far. I suppose that I could try to tune to the bass, but since the band is sequenced and we are locked pretty close to A 440 anyway, periodic checking with a tuner is a better solution in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'm still using my ears, but it prevents me from having to lip it too far to stay in tune. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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...this brings to mind something I'd forgotten....
In my previous incarnation as lead-guitar player (x-years ago, folks -- think Dick Dale's "Misirlou", Hendrix "Star Spangled Banner" w/ whammy-bar "dive bombs" & feedback, etc, etc.)...we didn't have today's digital equipment to tune our instruments. Ususally, I held my guitar in my lap, picked-up a telephone and held it to my ear against my shoulder, and tuned the guitar with both hands free to THE DIAL TONE !!! It always was an A-440 reference !!! ("necessity is a mother....").
Robert Rowe
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RichN Veteran Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 162 Location: UK Mids.
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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And get a tuning fork as a backup; dirt cheap, can't break and doesn't need batteries.
Rich. |
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Att: RichN
Re: UK Dial Tone
I'm curious -- as I posted above, the telephone dial tone here in the USA is right-on at A-440, and we are at 60 -cycles AC (alternating current).
Can you check and see what you have there ?
...Also, you're right about the tuning-fork...cheap & reliable !!
Robert Rowe |
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cujazztrpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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A tuning fork sounds great. _________________ Playing music is better than playing notes!
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RichN Veteran Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 162 Location: UK Mids.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Robert Rowe,
I'd test our dial tone to find out what the frequency is, but I only have a tuning fork! It's not a pure tone anyway, I think it's a mixture of two tones with a very fast 'pulse'.
Rich. |
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Yoder Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I love my analog Korg GT-12! _________________ http://www.co-bw.com/ |
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patrick32378 Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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The Peterson strobe tuner/metronome/tone generator is by far the MOST helpful practicing device I've ever had!!!
The tuner can be set for a NUMBER of different systems of tuning ("just intonation" might benefit a brass player)
The metronome is on par with the Dr. Beat's
The tone generator is LOUD..and FULL compared to little squeels you hear on most. It goes so low that you can tap the beats on your lap and so high that you might need lead underwear.
It's expensive but I think it's amazing. |
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