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JohnnyChemo
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:22 pm    Post subject: Tuner died, need recommendation on a new one! Reply with quote

Well, my old Korg AT-12 bit the dust today. What is out there that can give me the same quality and features?
Since this tuner is about 20 years old, it's likely not many people know what it does, so here are the features I find most attractive-

-pitch generator - goes from around pedal D to C# above the staff on trumpet, if there is one with a wider range great, but I'd like to get something with at least the same range

-analog meter (needle) - seems more responsive

-use adapter or batteries

-earpiece optional

Price isn't really an issue, esp if I'll get another 20 years out of it.

So what is the best replacement for the old beast?

BTW- I'd consider a tuner metronome combo, but I've got a DB-66 (about the same age) which is still going strong. If there was a combo that gives me the same quality/features of the the tuner and met I've had, I'd probably go for it.

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The newer Korg pocket tuners are quite nice. I need to replace mine soon cause my old one walked away (i wasnt THAT out of tune, i swear). Theyre about $20, and if you can remember where you put them, they'll last equally as long.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These Pedersons are pretty good. A buddy of mine just got this one.
http://www.wwbw.com/Peterson-V-SAM-Virtual-Strobe-Tuner-Metronome-i93945.music

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Tuner died, need recommendation on a new one! Reply with quote

JohnnyChemo wrote:
Well, my old Korg AT-12 bit the dust today. What is out there that can give me the same quality and features?
Since this tuner is about 20 years old, it's likely not many people know what it does, so here are the features I find most attractive-

-pitch generator - goes from around pedal D to C# above the staff on trumpet, if there is one with a wider range great, but I'd like to get something with at least the same range

-analog meter (needle) - seems more responsive

-use adapter or batteries

-earpiece optional

Price isn't really an issue, esp if I'll get another 20 years out of it.

So what is the best replacement for the old beast?

BTW- I'd consider a tuner metronome combo, but I've got a DB-66 (about the same age) which is still going strong. If there was a combo that gives me the same quality/features of the the tuner and met I've had, I'd probably go for it.

Thanks in advance!




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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...For a moment, you had me there...(gotta get my eyes checked)...thought Tina (Turner) died !

Another recommendation for the Peterson...it's worth the money.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Peterson model is really enticing, but I think I'm leaning toward the Korg OT-12. Similar in function to the Peterson without the strobe or metronome, and less than half the cost.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best Korg CA-30. Like 20 dollars in most places. Good and economic. try to found a good camera to care it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FELIX C wrote:
The best Korg CA-30. Like 20 dollars in most places. Good and economic. try to found a good camera to care it.

That's what I have and it's truly a fantastic little tuner. I guess it depends on what you want out of it. I have a bell pickup for mine so that I can use it in the loud environment of a rock band, but at the same time you can plug an electric guitar chord into it and tune that too. It's also lightweight enough that I have it velcroed to my stand.

It's also fairly rugged. I have dropped mine on a number of occasions, popping the back completely off of it, but it's like a Timex - it takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

One other last little cool thing about it, it takes standard AAA batteries.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THe Peterson virtual strobe tuners are the very best, specially for the $. Best tuner I've ever used~ I use em to intonate my guitars, they're that good.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your ears. Or the pianist in the band during the 1st song.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my Peterson V-SAM Virtual Strobe. I have had it for about a month and it does more than some of the old full size Petersons. The nice things about it are the battery features and the fact it will read out your entire ensemble on one strobe.

It finds your pitch automatically and you can use it for learning/testing a new horn for intonation characteristics. It is also so easy to use that the students in my middle school band program use it with no trouble.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment I use this http://www.phonature.com/home/products_PhonTuner.htm which runs on my mobile phone, which always causes a few raised eyebrows.

As you'll see from my recent post in fundamentals, I rely on ears for tuning and just use the phone for establishing tuning notes. I even have a tuning fork lying around somewhere.

I would love a Peterson tuner though - I wouldn't use it much but they are very cool.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cujazztrpt wrote:
Your ears. Or the pianist in the band during the 1st song.

That's all fine and dandy in a perfect world, but what if you are in a rock band, where the volume is louder and you might be blowing a bit harder? I use the tuner as a means to check my intonation so that I don't chop myself out lipping it up or down too far. I suppose that I could try to tune to the bass, but since the band is sequenced and we are locked pretty close to A 440 anyway, periodic checking with a tuner is a better solution in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'm still using my ears, but it prevents me from having to lip it too far to stay in tune.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...this brings to mind something I'd forgotten....
In my previous incarnation as lead-guitar player (x-years ago, folks -- think Dick Dale's "Misirlou", Hendrix "Star Spangled Banner" w/ whammy-bar "dive bombs" & feedback, etc, etc.)...we didn't have today's digital equipment to tune our instruments. Ususally, I held my guitar in my lap, picked-up a telephone and held it to my ear against my shoulder, and tuned the guitar with both hands free to THE DIAL TONE !!! It always was an A-440 reference !!! ("necessity is a mother....").

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And get a tuning fork as a backup; dirt cheap, can't break and doesn't need batteries.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Att: RichN
Re: UK Dial Tone

I'm curious -- as I posted above, the telephone dial tone here in the USA is right-on at A-440, and we are at 60 -cycles AC (alternating current).
Can you check and see what you have there ?
...Also, you're right about the tuning-fork...cheap & reliable !!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tuning fork sounds great.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Rowe,

I'd test our dial tone to find out what the frequency is, but I only have a tuning fork! It's not a pure tone anyway, I think it's a mixture of two tones with a very fast 'pulse'.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my analog Korg GT-12!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Peterson strobe tuner/metronome/tone generator is by far the MOST helpful practicing device I've ever had!!!

The tuner can be set for a NUMBER of different systems of tuning ("just intonation" might benefit a brass player)

The metronome is on par with the Dr. Beat's

The tone generator is LOUD..and FULL compared to little squeels you hear on most. It goes so low that you can tap the beats on your lap and so high that you might need lead underwear.

It's expensive but I think it's amazing.
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