Getzen Severinsen Eterna - How to tell bore?

Bluedoggy

I have found a Severinsen which I think is mid-late 60's and am thinking about checking it out. How can you tell, by looking at it, which bore it is? Is this period good for these horns? What is a fair price for one in very good condition?

Thanks.

SatchmoGillespie · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:26 am Post subject:

I believe that they are ML bores unless they are stamped with "LB" right below the serial number on the 2nd valve. I may be wrong but I believe that's what I had read on here once. I have an old Severinsen w/o the LB stamped on it.
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Bluedoggy · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:39 am Post subject:

Thanks. Do you find the ML to be overly bright? That is why I was interested in a large bore.

murph66 · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject:

You might send an email to Mary at the Getzen plant and ask her what the bore is of the trumpet you are interested in. I think some of the early Severinsen LB had a .468 bore and the later ones, like the '76 I have was a .464, but I could be mistaken. I have owned a ML bore Severinsen, but that was several years ago and I haven't played the two side by side. I am playing a ML bore now, a Lawler, and it doesn't sound as bright as the Severinsen.
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plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3621

All Getzen Eterna Severinsen model trumpets are .460" bore unless stamped LB on the second valve casing right under the leadpipe and serial number.
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woo · Veteran Member Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 128

I have played both side by side. The LB model I have is a 0.468 bore with the pre-amado spit valves. I can not comment on the 0.464 model. The ML eterna played noticeably brighter and seemed to project better. The LB has fuller and mellower sound. It rings nicely when played above the staff. I have also read that the LB's were made with two different kind of bells. I am not sure how to tell which one is which.

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Bluedoggy · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject:

Thanks, all. I'm going to check it out tomorrow. I'm a little concerned about the 'bright' thing, but it seems to be such a well respected horn, I figure I better try it out.

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Bluedoggy · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject:

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Good question. Part of the answer is relative to your personal sound and your concept of sound. If your sound leans dark, regardless of trumpet, then you may be able to naturally take the edge off of an inherently brilliant sounding horn.

I'm convinced that each trumpet should be matched with a mouthpiece that optimizes the target results based upon the player's input. One consideration is that a medium deep peice might be less work than a deep piece for some. Lots of variables, enough to lead to an entirely new thread on that topic alone.

My Schilke B1 seems to be more agreeable to my sound with a deeper (higher volume) cup, so I use the GR 'MX' with it. That mouthpiece is simply too much for the LB Eterna, which is nicely matched with the medium M cup. On the other hand, the Schilke blows way too brilliant for me with the M cup.
Why not try the Eterna with your current mp. It may be just fine.

Let us know how the trial goes.

Fusion2002 · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:

Just thought I'd comment here.. even though this thread is kinda old.... I had the chance to try out a Early 60's Severinsen Large bore, so early infact the serial is SK360X.... Holy Smokes... I dont think I've ever played a nicer lead horn. I couldnt believe how much cutting power the horn has when you push it.... upper register is incredible on this horn. My jazz director uses one, and he let me try it out in jazz last wednesday. I was shocked to say the least. Most comfortable and effortless upper register I've felt on any horn. Slots were on the loose side, which made the horn really fun to play. It was a bit slippery for me, but I'm not used to a horn with slotting like that. It was a fun experience. I'm going to try to find one for myself.

shastastan · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject:

I'm a rookie player and have a Getzen LB ser. # SKxxxx. I recently got a Northern Brass mp (similar to a GR-made at the same place). That mp made a big difference both my tone and volume output. Bruce Lee suggested it and it sure is a good match for that horn and me.

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StevenPSparks · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Good time to bring this thread back to life (for me). I borrowed a friend's early-mid 70s ML Doc last week, and...........WOW. I was really impressed. Precisely as described by Fusion2002 above. Talk about cuts like a knife when pushed. If one is looking for a horn with which to "blend", this is NOT the axe of choice.
I WILL be looking for one for myself (Do I hear any offers for sale out there?). Feel free to let me know.
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d5968 · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject:

I have a 1964 ML severinsen and I don't feel is has a bright tone, but I use a 1C mp. I think it is an outstanding horn. they sell from 500-750.
they are very underrated.
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Fusion2002 · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:

Now I just need someone to chime in with an early LB for sale... They are hard to find, almost every Severinsen that goes across ebay is the ML version.

rich · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject:

What happened to the add in the marketplace for :'74 Severinsen Eterna LB When I click on the add, it goes to a "blank" add. It's been there since Feb.... the seller obviously didn't delet the add because it is still in the listings with a couple of sentences from the beginning of the add. what's the deal. I wonder if he still has the horn.
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Fusion2002 · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:

nope he sold it. I asked last week.

rich · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject:

ok... well, that's good to know... maybe he should go in and delete the add. It would be fun to try the LB... I love this ML I have...

How do you suppose a good ol' Eterna would stack up against the new Destino?? Silly question??

I won't mention brand names but this Eterna is right on the money when it comes to locking onto certain high notes... which I can't say for 2 or 3 other expensive trumpets I have owned... but that could have been the fault of the player

Moral of the story... play a cheaper horn

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