Bach LT180 any suggestions?

puukka · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: Bach LT180 any suggestions?

Hello friends
When I´m playing 1st tp I seem to be more at the soft side.
So I´m looking for a trumpet that would be brighter to cut through the band. Since I don´t want to run around with two trumpets for several reasons it should be suitable for my soloing, too.
I tried several (Bach Strads, Kanstul Chicago, Callichio,...)
At the end I took a Bach LT180 37* ML for the weekend.
It´s the complete lightweight one without nickel trim (looks nice). It seem to be bright, but also soft, when you want it. It´s also easy playing, as expected.
Does anyone have experence with that kind of model?
All the best,
Herbert
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bgwbold · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:14 am Post subject:

I like the 37 regular, so I know I would like the 37*. I have a 72* though, and from what I recall, it is a little bit more of a general purpose horn than the 37* in that it is not quite so bright sounding. Otherwise, they felt very similar to me. I like the quick response and the nice bright sound you get from a lightweight horn.

Mike

mafields627 · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:17 am Post subject:

I notice you play on a 3C mouthpiece. Maybe you should investigate a mouthpiece with the same diameter but a shallower cup that will give you a little more brightness and allow you to cut through more. That would be a cheaper alternative to a new horn.
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puukka · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:44 am Post subject:

Well, this would be a good idea but somehow I have problems with shallower mouthpieces than a C Cup.
I tried a lot of these but I all the time had the feeling to loose grip during a longer period of playing.
I only found out, that my embouchure is more of the version with pushing the lips forward into the mpc (Maggio?) and they tend to move out of shallower cups.
During my "carrer" I played various 7C, 5C, 6C and finally 3C, even I all the time tried with shallower with the same unsatisfied result.
Herbert
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cheiden · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:48 am Post subject:

Regarding horns I think the Bach 37, light or regular weight are good choices for the playing you describe. I prefer the mellower sound of the 72 but not for lead. Other good choices are the Yamaha 6310Z or the Kanstul ZKT 1500.

If you're not unhappy with your horn otherwise I'd definately consider trying a different mouthpiece. Some manage playing lead on a Bach 3C but many opt for something brighter. If you like the Bach 3C I strongly recommend you try a Reeves 43NM. The 43N rim feels very similar to a 3C and the M cup projects noticeably better with less effort. It's particularly good for people who want more projection but can't function on other shallow pieces like the Schilke A cups .

mafields627 · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:59 am Post subject:

puukka · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject:

Here´s a weird picture, but showing what I mean with pushing my lips forward.
I don´t know why I started to play like that but it´s fine with me, exept the problem with shallow cups.
Herbert

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puukka · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject:

Oh, backbore is in that case a good idea. Im sorry to say, in Austria there don´t seem to be a dealer of Reeves, at least they don´t have them on stock but we have a great dealer of Warburton, who has quite a range. (Even I think, that I could get used to the LT180, my account would hate me for that)

I´m appreciating much your competent help, thanks, great forum!
Herbert
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