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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Definitely, a very good read! 2 large cups of Community Dark Roast while reading and I'm ready to hit the practice room!
Life is Short, find the Joy in it!
Mike _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9033 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:59 am Post subject: |
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cbtj51 wrote: | 2 large cups of Community Dark Roast while reading and I'm ready to hit the practice room! |
So, nothing like going first class, huh Mike? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Benge 3X Trumpet
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JonathanM Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 2018 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Coffee commentary, just a warning.
I'm not a big coffee guy, but years ago I had two daughter's working at an area Starbucks. One of their co-workers was trying to gain some store credit, so he offered a special session of coffee tasting to the public. My girls didn't think many were going to show up, so they asked me to attend. Bear in mind, I'm not really into coffee, and if you're a Sbux person you know they have some strong stuff. The guy started off by pouring us some Community Coffee, and I tried it thinking, 'Hey, this isn't bad!' The brew was then soundly mocked and ridiculed as having no flavor, and a Starbucks semi-strong cup was introduced as a much superior alternative. I flinched as I drank it. Then they progressed to the really strong stuff. I wanted to bolt, run out, scream with my hands up, 'No Mas!!!', but they kept introducing more coffee - yet stronger, '...And this blend is from a small island in the middle of the Pacific that has had a history of strong earthquakes. You'll note the strong flavor has a hint of earthiness to it...' What, had we transferred to a wine tasting?? Finally, thank God, the coffee tasting ended; I was thrilled to leave with my taste-buds (barely) intact. When I got home, my darling girls asked me, 'How was it, Dad??' I slowly responded, 'If anything, I'm a Community Coffee guy.'
Now for a bit on Olds... The vavle action of my Super Recording was absolutely tremendous, as was its overall playing. Gotta say though, a Mendez that I had felt very similar. When Olds put their best craftsmen on their premium horns, they produced some truly memorable results. Overall, an Olds horn is a fine instrument, but their premier models can still be truly impressive. _________________ Jonathan Milam
Trumpets: 18043B, 18043*, 18043 Sterling Silver +, 18037 SterlingSilver+, Benge 4x, Olds: '34 Symphony, '47 Super, '52 Recording
Flugle: Strad 182
Puje: American Belle
Cornet: Olds Recording & Super |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I think the reason most people don't even know that Starbucks coffee tasted like road base that's had hot water poured over it, is that their customers don't even like coffee, but prefer a hot breakfast milkshake.
Real coffee, especially if you prefer it fully leaded and no cream or sugar [or carmel sauce, or marshmallows, or pumpkin spice, or whatever other crap people add to it), is the furthest thing from that awful garbage Starbucks charges 10X more than it's worth.
Now back to trumpets... _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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peanuts56 Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Nov 2021 Posts: 233
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | I have had Austrian, German, French and Italian coffee in their countries of origin and, while Starbucks is not my favourite coffee, I can, nevertheless, say:
Starbucks is to Folgers
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Lowenbrau is to Miller |
Not a huge fan of Starbucks. Back here in the east we have Dunkin Donuts. Given a choice between them I choose Starbucks. For getting coffee out in my area the best is McDonalds for my tastebuds. I haven't had it in ages but they used to serve Paul Newman's Organic. Really good.
I usually grind my own combining a dark roast with a medium roast. Their both organic and shade grown. Got to protect the aina. Get them at Costco.. |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2023 Posts: 478
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I used to have three OLDS Recordings: one from each era of manufacturing, My impression was the early iteration (not certain of the year) was the better horn,
Subsequently, I acquired an early Super-Recording.
Sold all three Recordings,
Still have the Super-Recording.
On-the-other-hand, my "Numero UNO" is a beat-up, pre-War French Besson, with leaky valves, and several patches, scant original lacquer.
(There are several #3-bore Martin Committees in my studio, also, that do occasionally get played).
Go figure
_________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 993 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:34 am Post subject: |
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A good coffee is quite a treat. I tend to always water down my coffee because otherwise my cafeïne intake would be way too high. The upside is that with enough water, any coffee becomes drinkable. Yet I do enjoy a good espresso, or a strong cup of tea. When I visited Florida a few years ago, I was surprised to learn that in the USA coffee places sold espresso's as a 'side dish' to those milk and sugar infused jumbo cups. Definitely a culture clash there .
The article about Recordings is a fun read indeed. My own Recording is such a joy to play, that I can hardly imagine something playing even better. Once had the chance to play a Super Recording and foolishly (or smartly?) decided not to try it. I was worried that if it indeed turned out to be as magical as the article describes it, I would have bought it on the spot regardless of the price (and I could not have afforded it back then). I've regretted that decision, as Super Recordings are rather rare here.
But I'm happy with my 1975 Recording nonetheless. In good condition, Olds horns are great players indeed. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Well, I have learned a lot about coffee today, as I sip on whatever I put in our Keurig this morning. Jonathan, thank you for sharing that wonderful story of the torment you endured at a...Sbux! Now I know how to abbreviate that name!
Please read my further comments in this thread…
https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1687291#1687291
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:03 am Post subject: |
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dstpt wrote: | I hope to post pictures when all is done. Stay tuned! |
Please do! Sounds like a very interesting project. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
AR Resonance mouthpieces |
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 409 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:18 am Post subject: |
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dstpt wrote: | I hope to post pictures when all is done. Stay tuned! |
I love the hand hammered look of these bells. Please let us know how the horns plays as well.
Ron _________________ Martin Committee #2 1954
Leblanc “Al Hirt” Model 1966
Olds Custom Crafted Ultra Sonic 1974
Edwards Gen II 2014 |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:16 am Post subject: |
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stuartissimo wrote: | dstpt wrote: | I hope to post pictures when all is done. Stay tuned! |
Please do! Sounds like a very interesting project. |
Ronnman wrote: | dstpt wrote: | I hope to post pictures when all is done. Stay tuned! |
I love the hand hammered look of these bells. Please let us know how the horns plays as well.
Ron |
Please read my follow-up comments in this thread…
https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1687291#1687291
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mike ansberry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Clarksville, Tn
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:25 am Post subject: |
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dstpt wrote: |
Anyway, I picked up another excellent Recording from a guy in "O, Canada," and met up with a brass tech south of Ft. Worth this summer to do something adventurous with it. He talked about hand-peened bells–especially copper bells–will bring out a wonder of richness and overtones in the sound, so I'm going that route. He aims to get to that project in the next month or so.
A few weeks ago, I also did buy an Olds Super bell from Clay at Centex Brass and had it shipped to the tech in the Ft. Worth area. Clay had this bell for sale from a salvage from a Super that had seen better days, so to speak. The plan is to make this an interchangeable bell horn. The tech will remove the existing bell made of Rey-O-Loy (Olds' heavy copper, rose brass material), hand peen it on a bell mandrel, and use the Super bell (not hand-peened) as a secondary bell. |
I will be very interested to hear how this turns out. I don't think a Super bell will fit a Recording body. The balanced design of the Recording and Super Recording means that the bell has a longer tail than a plain Super.
I had a Recording made in the 1970's. I inherited a Recording made in the LA factory. It plays more like my SR. It would be very interesting to put a Super bell on this older Recording. _________________ Music is a fire in your belly, fighting to get out. You'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt. |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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mike ansberry wrote: | ...I will be very interested to hear how this turns out. I don't think a Super bell will fit a Recording body. The balanced design of the Recording and Super Recording means that the bell has a longer tail than a plain Super.
I had a Recording made in the 1970's. I inherited a Recording made in the LA factory. It plays more like my SR. It would be very interesting to put a Super bell on this older Recording. |
We'll see what kind of attachment the guy does with the custom changeable bell connection. Allowances would have to be taken into effect, I guess, for pretty much any other bell you'd put on a Recording.
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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As this thread seems to be morphing into "other areas" (not so unusual, actually) ... I shall proffer my OLDS/bell-swapping experience/experiment.
I put a Reynolds rose-brass Contempora bell on an OLDS Pinto.
Fit is perfect, and the horn plays and sounds great !
To keep it more "in the family", I am thinking of putting that Contempora bell on a Pinto stablemate: a Reynolds Ranger. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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