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ensiflat Regular Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 90 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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We've all been playing taps incorrectly all these years. The official Army bugle call manual has straight eighth notes in the pickup to bar 3, and bar 3. We've all been playing dotted eighth sixteenth rhythms at those spots. |
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DavesTrumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 1712 Location: Shreveport, LA
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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We?
I've always played it this way, with the 1/8 notes. Most times I hear it, it is done correctly too.
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musicemt Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 419
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I used to play it incorrectly, but there was an article in the ITG Journal last year that fixed that for me. I made a bunch of copies of the article (sorry Vince!) and gave it to all my high school friends who still play taps. I can vouch that in Owensboro, KY, everybody now plays taps correctly!
Ben _________________ "Imitation, assimilation, innovation"
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tapsbugler Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 134 Location: Arlington National Cemetery
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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ensiflat
Thanks for your posting! You are saying what I've been saying for the longest time.
Take a look at http://www.tapsbugler.com/ and click on the section "Taps Performance Guidelines"
Also, you can click on the PDF and Sound file button for the printed music and a file of Taps being sounded by Woody English of The US Army Band on his B flat Bach Strad field trumpet
99% of the military manuals has the rhythm as straight 8th notes, yet it is not perfomed that way by many. That there are those who are playing it the way it is sounded at Arlington National Cemetery I say "Good For you!"
Now if we can work on getting rid of "Echo Taps".....
Jari Villanueva
[ This Message was edited by: tapsbugler on 2004-01-15 18:56 ] |
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trumplyr Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1069 Location: Rochester Hills, Mi.
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: |
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On 2004-01-15 15:59, ensiflat wrote:
We've all been playing taps incorrectly all these years. The official Army bugle call manual has straight eighth notes in the pickup to bar 3, and bar 3. We've all been playing dotted eighth sixteenth rhythms at those spots.
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We? Speak for yourself. It is good though, that you've posted this for those who were playing it incorrectly. Thanks.
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
Joined: 28 Dec 2001 Posts: 6437 Location: AVL|NC|USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the concensus . . . you need to speak for yourself, there, ensiflat.
From the time I was a Boy Scout and got my bugling merit badge I have been playing it as written. I played dozens and dozens (if not hundreds) of funerals during my time in the US Army and got many letters of commendation for them.
It's alright to post an alert to the uninitiated, but please do not tell the rest of us we've been playing it wrong all these years.
Rich _________________ Puttin’ On The Ritz |
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screamer Veteran Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 191
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Is it okay to stretch out the rhythm a bit?
I was thinking I might not have been playing it as written, but then I sung it to myself and tapped a beat and I just stretch out the 8th notes a little. I like how it sounds... I'd never seen the music to taps before somebody posted a link on TH, so I just did it by ear.
I guess under the same catagory, does it really matter what "bugle" taps is played on? I can see the music is written for an "F bugle" (open), but I think it sounds warmer being played with my first finger down ("Eb bugle", right? ).
Just being a highschooler I don't get a lot of call to play taps, but I'd like to do it right, y'know? |
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bigaggietrumpet Regular Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 70 Location: College Station, TX
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Screamer. HS kids ain't taught correctly how to play it. Luckily, I did look up the music.
To me, Taps is one of the most difficult pieces to play. The emotion of what you are doing, why you are doing it, it all seems to just sink in when the bugler first blows. I have to fight back that choking feeling that I get when I think of all the people who serve us in the military on a daily basis, when I think of those who have given their lives for the freedom that we all too often take for granted. I have had to perform it, ceremonially, 3 times. Once, at a funeral of a dear friend who fought at Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima, and then twice on the first anniversary of 9/11. In my opinion, it is the most important job for the trumpet ever created, and should be treated with the reverence and respect that it deserves.
As for Echo Taps, I'm afraid that it will never completely go away. Why? The Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M performs Echo Taps at A&M for special occasions (in fact, I think the next time will be a week from Thursday). And I have yet to see the Cadets give up a tradition of that caliber. I don't support it, but that's just the way things are down here. _________________ Michael Smith
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badebop Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1591 Location: Lacon, IL
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm too lazy to look up the website. What's the right tempo for Taps? |
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tapsbugler Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 134 Location: Arlington National Cemetery
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.tapsbugler.com/
Click on soundfile for "the" rendition of Taps
Jari Villanueva
[ This Message was edited by: tapsbugler on 2004-02-07 17:37 ] |
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trumplyr Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1069 Location: Rochester Hills, Mi.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful.
Thanks,
Marty _________________ Marty
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Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best."
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douglast35758 Regular Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Livermore, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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This is great, but PLEASE, more of us need to volunteer to play taps for those veterans and families that want a player. Please visit the web sites. Please volunteer to perform for local funerals and civic events. You ALL have the talent. This is such a small thing to us, but means so much to those who are there. Do not allow the fallen and departed to be buried, and the friends and family to seek closure, to the sound of a CD boombox. My thanks to you all. --Doug |
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edtaylor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2001 Posts: 1199 Location: Brevard, NC
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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A friend used to take exception to how I played and even argued that Taps was 3/4 time. Funny thing is that he was in a Drum and Bugle Corps, and used to travel to PA for the finals. _________________ Ed Taylor . . . a Messianic gentile |
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SilverTrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 196 Location: MA
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-02-14 16:35, douglast35758 wrote:
This is great, but PLEASE, more of us need to volunteer to play taps for those veterans and families that want a player. Please visit the web sites. Please volunteer to perform for local funerals and civic events. You ALL have the talent. This is such a small thing to us, but means so much to those who are there. Do not allow the fallen and departed to be buried, and the friends and family to seek closure, to the sound of a CD boombox. My thanks to you all. --Doug
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douglast... after reading this post I felt it my duty to inform everyone that some people have actually been developing a mute to go in the bell of a bugle that plays taps as a recording!! any old person can just hold the horn to their lips and play Taps for a dead US soldier. Personally that insults me too. I've been playing taps at memorial day and veterans day for years, but not until the shipyard asked me to play it for a september 11 memorial service and issued me a commendation did I realize how much it means to the military. Don't let recordings ruin a tradition that our soldiers deserve!
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[ This Message was edited by: SilverTrumpet on 2004-02-22 19:43 ] |
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_PhilPicc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 2286 Location: Clarkston, Mi. USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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You can sign up at this sight to play taps. It also has the correct way that taps is to be performed.
http://www.buglesacrossamerica.org/index.php
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[ This Message was edited by: PhilPicc on 2004-02-22 19:31 ] |
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patrick32378 Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 323 Location: Denton Tx
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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What's more incorrect is that it is being played by electronic bugles. |
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