air

ram · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: air

I am not sure of how air is used in TCE

Should we hear the sound of the air passing trough the trumpet or should there be no airy sound at all?

Are we blowing air into the mp only? If so, how does air not go into the instrument?

stradfreak101 · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject:

of course it is supposed to sound airy, that is normal..
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ram · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject:

Strad

Sometimes it is difficult to know what is normal and what is not normal when considering TCE

I just think that some sounds are more airier than others and whether we are striving for less air in the sound when using TCE

tptguy · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject:

Ram, Jerry will listen for as much core and center to the sound as possible. Absolutely no audible air in the sound (except for special effect when wanted). - Kyle

lubonv · Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:38 am Post subject:

Two personal observation on the subject. (one cent each....)

The air pressure that is not 'transformed' into vibration at the point of contact of the forward tongue and inner soft lips is wasted (unless we want special effects).

No 'air through the horn' feeling with TCE, but controlled pressurization of the internal air by the tongue which generate sounding vibration in the small MPC cup with only the necessary air getting out in the process (without any necessary pover in it):
if you do a poverful spit-buzz correctly and try to do a big long one with your hand in front of your mouth you should have a big sound and little elimination of air going out - the air that goes out will probably not even make it through the horn.

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razeontherock · Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:53 am Post subject:

The air actually does make it through the horn, eventually. I like the caption of one of Jerry's drawings: "the tongue will convert the tongue into pure vibrations." Which means a clear sound.

The physics involved mean that as soon as the air hits the lips the resistance in the instrument makes the lip vibrate, which I take to explain why we never play exactly as we spit buzz.

ram · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:40 am Post subject:

Does this mean that when we spit buzz we make the lips buzz but on the horn we only supply air tho the lips?