8335LA Bergeron Yamaha

Bartok · Veteran Member Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 456

OK.........but, I've played on 2 8335LA's

Bill Bryant · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject:

Sounds to me like somebody could be brilliantly increasing the anticipation about this horn. Is this a marketing strategy? It's in stock . . . it isn't in stock . . . people have tested it . . . it must have been something else . . . there are only 5 horns out there . . . this April . . . next April . . . a wonderful horn was destroyed just before somebody had a chance to play it . . .

This is almost enough drama for a movie.

If I were marketing this horn I'd be loving it right now!

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trumpetoid · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: 8335LA

Last Tuesday I recieved a new from the factory 8335LA and I sold it the same day. They are being distributed but perhaps not in large quantities.
I hope to see a few more pop thru in the not to distant future. Maybe this time I'll actually have a chance to give it a once over!

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trumpetgeeksr · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:

Well, I just order one from FERGUSON'S MUSIC. Some one post here on the TH that the store had two in stock. I placed my order via credit card last Thurs. (the guy confirmed he had two in stock). I took his word and bought it on my card........ Now I can't find that post anymore and you guys are scaring the HELL out of me saying it's not on the market till April. WHAT THE @#*%'s going on?!!!
I DON'T WANT THE STOCK YTR-8335, I WANT THE YTR-8335LA!!!

And BTW!! WHat happened to the CD?! It was suppose to be release thru AMAZON on the 10th............ I per-odered that too... anyone else out there needs to used my money?!
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Trptbenge · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject:

Yes, he definitely got some wrong information. Both Dillons and WWBW have had their first shipment which sold out. Also, trumpettrader.com has one in stock right now. He got it this past week. He asking $2,100 for the one he has and has had a lot of inquiries.

The reason the 8335LA trumpet was delayed was because Yamaha wanted to make more Xenos to take advantage of the Bach Strike. It was originally going to be released in April 2006.

The horn is out and in high demand. Dillons got two and they sold immediately. Also, if Gerry Lopez said he had one in stock - he had one in stock. He is a great guy to deal with.

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trptdave · Regular Member Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 54

Well I have one of the two from Dillon, but I will be sending it back. Great horn, just not for me. A very light and quick responding horn though. A bonus from me playing it is that I have blown out all the bad notes!!!
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bandman322 · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:

I'll stand by the Yamaha Rep I spoke to, but to make sure I dropped Wayne an Email and asked him when the horn will be out. I also asked him to post here on TH to settle this with facts straight from him.
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trumpetgeeksr · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

If the players here on the TH are saying that they've played on the YTR-8335LA in stores acorss America, then I'm going to believe that the horn is making it to the market.

And I'm surely not going to tell the guys that's saying he has one on his lap right this minute as he replys the this thread...................
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Trptbenge · Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:29 am Post subject:

Bandman, I don't know who the Yamaha rep is you talked to but he is definitely out of the loop. You can see all the posts from people who have played it and a couple who have bought it and you can go look at an actually picture of one that is for sale on www.trumpettrader.com. I would worry about this rep if I were Yamaha. He must have missed the memo.

Also, if you choose to ignore all your fellow posters on TH you might want to contact Bob Malone or even go to the Yamaha website and email them. Bob would be more up to date on the production status. I am sure they are still gearing up production after the push to get more Xenos in the market. One thing the delay really helped them on was to increase the hype on the horn.

Dave, I see you are sending the horn you bought from Dillons back. How did it compare to the Kanstul 1600?

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miles71 · Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:02 am Post subject:

I have in my living room:

8335LA Bb
9335NY Bb
9445CHicago C
B5 Schilke Bb
S42 Schilke Bb
P4-5 Picc (Schilke)

These horns are going to be on display for the Maryland Trumpet Day I am hosting, however I got some of them early to help out the exhibitor with shipping. The Bergeron horns are out and play very nice. First impressions are great, but it doesnt feel like the one I played about a year ago. Since I have the horns early I will get a detailed review on TH as soon as I can.

If you want to try out these horns, I'll see you on Nov 5th. I cant wait to put them up against the stage 1's.

TrpPro · Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:22 am Post subject:

I have had two LA's for a week but am just now getting them out of the box. Very hard to tell differences between the two.

1st and 3rd valve slides are perfect as are the valves. One thing I like is that the springs are not super stiff and probably won't need to be trimmed to suit my my taste for lighter action.

First impressions:

All notes above high C (including G) are very stable. I notice a slight bump in the road moving on to the A, but expect it to smooth out with more playing time.

Tone is well centered with edge but still fat.

Trptbenge · Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:52 am Post subject:

Miles71 and trppro great first impressions. The other feedback I have heard comparing them to the Kanstul 1600 is that the 8335LA seems to have more core to the sound and the scale is very even. Also, while it has an edge it could be a very versatile horn. It also has better projection then the 1600. The bell is basically the same bell that is is on the 8310Z and Chicago C. The leadpipe is a specially modified Z leadpipe by Bob Malone. It allows a large volume of air with a very quick response.

From what I understand Wayne and Bob Malone went through dozens of modifications until they got it right. It should be a very nice instrument.

By the way, the 9335NYS is by far the best horn I have played so far. It is a remarkable horn. Miles71 it will be interesting what type of feedback you get on the horns.

Mike
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trptdave · Regular Member Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 54

Well I found this horn to be superior to the Kanstul version for me in all areas. It had a much more even sound in all registers. It could be used as a horn in all situations. The weight was on the lighter side, but that does not mean thin or tinny at all. More brilliance than a 6335 or xeno. It has one tuning slide brace, and that plus the weight adds to the quick response. I preferred it to xenos I have played. Comes with the traditional Yamaha double case, which is the best out there in that style IMHO.

My friend who plays the Vax Yamaha says it played bigger than his. Myself and another lead player thought that it played tighter than some other horns we prefer, including a schilke B1 and of course my Wild Thing, but that makes sense. Both of us commented that we liked the quick response and we probably would get used to the resistance. Overall a very nice horn. I was surprised at the plastic valve guides, that was the only thing I questioned.
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waynardb · Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: Yamaha 8335LA info from Wayne B.

This may be old news to some of you after reading this mornings posts but someone had asked me to post this information.
Here's what I know. Well...what I think I know.
As far as an official release date, who knows? It has changed a few times because of various logistical reasons. As far as prototypes... I have the only prototype. There were 10 pre-production models floating around the world a while back. I believe they are all back in NYC at the Yamaha custom shop at this point. These horns were made for testing and feedback before we made our final decision to give Yamaha Japan the go ahead with manufacturing. A few minor changes where made to these horns to get them up to snuff. This delayed final production a bit but I wanted all the horns to play exactly like my prototype.

The first 6 official production horns where shipped to my house for testing about 6 weeks ago. Bob Malone & I had a little trumpet party here for local players to try the horns. Five of those horns where sold that day and I kept a lacquer one for myself. I did a call from Ferguson music in Tujunga, CA and was told that 4 have arrived at his store as well. Anaheim Band also has 2 of the horns as of last week. A student from TX that told me he ordered one from WWBW and it arrived damaged. Anyway, there was some question of the horns availability, apparently horns are being shipped. I would love to get any feedback on the horn from those that have tried it.

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Wayne Bergeron
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DCB1 · Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:57 am Post subject:

Can I say it is great to see you on the forum Mr.B. It is nice to see the big guys giving some us some advice and input. I enjoy your playing immensely and might just have to give the new horn a try.

Thanks again!

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