Yamaha Serial Number List

[Louise Finch]

Hi

I'm looking for an Yamaha serial number list in addition to this one:

https://parts-search.yamaha.co.jp/html/WIND_ENGLISH/orders/search_result_e.php?m=&p=&k=&bc=002&mc=002_001&sc=002_001_001|

This one appears blank:

https://www.yamahacollector.com/serialstrumpet

Many thanks

Lou
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

[Louise Finch]

This part of the website works:

https://www.yamahacollector.com/trumpet

Additionally I'm looking to find out in which month in 2013, the Yamaha Xeno II was introduced.

Many thanks

Lou
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

[Shifty]

From a 2004 post on themouthpiece.com: Yamaha doesn't sequentially number their instruments like other manufacturers (except perhaps their guitars and basses) So if you contact Yamaha, you may be able to get someone to look up the information and tell you when and where it was manufactured, but it's not simply a matter of sequential numbering, thus posting a list to a website or comparing one number to other known numbers and their dates of manufacture (or purchase) is really quite useless.

And a 2009 post from Dave Werden on his Euphonium forum: In the land of serial numbers, Yamaha does not own property. They do not publish their serial number lists like other companies. If you have a contact inside the company you can get this information, but it can be a royal pain sometimes. Maybe this has finally changed. It seems to me to be a rather stupid practice.
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[Louise Finch]

[Louise Finch]

This cut and posted email thread will give an idea:

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 11:11, UK.Support <UK.Support@contact.europe.yamaha.com> wrote:



Dear Ms Finch,

Thank you for your enquiry regarding your Yamaha trumpet.

With regards to the second part of your enquiry, our specialists in Japan have struggled to find out any specific information on your trumpet. The serial number indicates that it was manufactured around May 2013. There is no information on why the number is lower than the original numbering system would indicate. Our colleagues have suggested that it could be from an early batch or prototype model.

I am sorry that we have been unable to be more definite.

I hope that this has been helpful.

Kind regards,

Alison Osborn



Initial reply:

Dear Ms Finch,

Thank you for your email regarding your Yamaha trumpet.

With regards to the first part of your query, relating to the difference between the MKII and MKIV 8335 Xeno trumpets, our Product Specialist has advised that there are no changes to the trumpet itself; just a case change.

We are waiting to hear back from our colleagues in Japan with regard to the serial number, and we will let you know the answer to this as soon as we have it.

I hope this helps and thank you for contacting Yamaha Music Europe GmbH (UK).

Kind Regards,

Alison Osborn



Your Query:

I have two questions please. The first is what please is the difference between the MK II and MK IV Yamaha 8335 Xeno trumpets?

The second, is a query regarding the serial number of my trumpet. It terms of specification it is a Xeno II. I bought it in October 2015 as an ex-demo. The serial number however is lower than the 526506 serial number given as the first YTR-8335(02) on the following link:

http://parts-search.yamaha.co.jp/html/WIND_ENGLISH/orders/search_result_e.php?m=&p=&k=&bc=002&mc=002_001&sc=002_001_001

My serial number is 525XXX. Can you please explain why I have a Xeno II trumpet with an earlier serial number?


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I was looking to confirm from another source that my serial number is indeed 1000 or so below the inital first Xeno II, and discuss what I have. Prototype or early batch. The serial number is on the valve block, but I have the Xeno II pistons with NH on them, so presumably I cannot have a Xeno I valve block, or could I? My trumpet has all other the Xeno II features, including the case, and just appears to be a normal Xeno II but with a too early serial number.

I know that it was an ex demo, but I'm not sure what kind of demo. My last Yamaha trumpet, a YTR-6335HGII was apparently Yamaha's own demo. I'm not sure whether this is the case for my trumpet, only that I was sold it as an ex demo from a retailer who didn't regularly stock the YTR-8335. They stocked the YTR-8335R and YTR-8335GS, so it seems odd that it was their demo, and working in a small music store, we didn't have demo instruments. We generally only stocked one example of the pro models we stocked, and sold the one we had in the display case, and ordered another in to replace it. This is the normal practice in my part of the world. Unless you are buying a student model, you expect for them to often only have one in stock, which is in the display case. Maybe then, my trumpet was also Yamaha's ex-demo, but why did a music shop have it to sell.

I know the answer with my first Yamaha, which was Yamaha's own demo. I had tried a YTR-6335 (which was the highest level Yamaha the retailer had in stock), and when I went back to buy it, it had been sold. The Yamaha rep said that there were no YTR-6335's in the UK at the time, and offered the retailer their ex demo YTR-6335HGII, as it was the time that the Xeno I was just coming out.

I have no idea about my Xeno II. I'm not at all worried about it, as it is a fantastic trumpet, and was in as new condition, but I thought that it would be a topic of interest.

All the best

Lou
_________________
Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs