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atrumpeteer Regular Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Open embouchure? |
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From what i've been reading it seems James Stamp approach is more of an open embouchure. Many people seem to say that open embouchure causes range, and endurance problems. Also did Stamp really care whether you were closed or open? I'm not sure i think i play both open and closed sometimes, but I don't think about it really.
Although I am interested in finding out about this.
Please tell me more about the open embouchure benefits. _________________ Life is like a trumpet - if you don't put anything into it, you don't get anything out of it. -William Christopher Handy |
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trumpetDS Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 566 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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I am by no means a Stamp expert, however, I do not find that his method advocates an open aperture. In the Stamp book, Stamp recommends breathing in on the syllable "up" which brings the lips together. I would think would make for a smaller and more focused aperture.
I used to intentionally play with a very open aperture. I loved my sound but had absolutely no control of the pitch above G on top of the staff or the pitch on crescendos/ descrescendos. I have alternated between Stamp and Thompson in my daily routine for about 8 years now and do not experience this problem anymore.
Hope this helps. |
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3992
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Open embouchure? |
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atrumpeteer wrote: | Many people seem to say that open embouchure causes range, and endurance problems. | Maynard played with an open embouchure...so does Roger Ingram and Bobby Shew- no range or endurance problems there.
When I took lessons with Roger, he had me try it...didn't work for me. But it sure does for him! |
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hornkid Regular Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 83 Location: Bloomington IN
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding is that "open" in the Stamp context merely means that there is minimal tension between the lips when playing the trumpet. The lips are less "open" when buzzing the mouthpiece and even less so when freebuzzing. I understand "closing" the lips to mean adding some minimal tension between the lips.
To quote Roy Poper: "Jimmy believed that buzzing allowed a player what he called a "close vibration--he meant that as "near"-- not "shut" or "tight"...Loosen the center of the lip when buzzing the mouthpiece {after freebuzzing}. We want less lip tension when buzzing on the mouthpiece than we had when we buzzed the same note on the lips alone...Close the lips to go higher."
I don't think the terms "open" or "closed" refer to a specific embouchure set but rather an explanation of how buzzing (on lips or mp) relates to actually playing the instrument and how we apply minimum tension at all times to produce a given note. _________________ http://www.mikeweimer.com/ |
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