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bwoodard Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Mich.
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: Getzen 580 Capri Cornet |
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I just picked up a Getzen 580 Capri cornet and find it hard to play. It seems to hold a lot of water and gets gurggley prematurly. Is this common of a shephards crook cornet? I am playing with a Bach 3C mouthpiece and it is a real struggle. I have a Denis Wick 4.5 mouthpiece coming and hope it will help.
Any ideas? _________________ Veteran comebacker!
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lmf Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: Indiana USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure it is totally clean inside and there are no obstructions?
I doubt if being a shepherd's crook cornet would be causing the problem.
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nickpasternack Veteran Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 176 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like an obstruction. any major dents in the bends of the slides? check the valve casing where the individual casing meets tubing. Pull the tuning slide and snake it if you have one, or maybe swab it. Same goes for the Leadpipe. The type of cornet doesnt matter for the problems your are describing. What are the specific issues? Stuffieness? extremely restricted blow? _________________ Harrelson 907 2005
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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The Amado waterkey does not flush well if the hole is obstructed. Remove the tuning slide, pour in some water into the bottom crook next to leadpipe, push the Amado in and see if all water clears out. Do the same with the third valve slide Amado.
If Amados are obstructed, best to give the instrument to a good repairman. It does not cost a lot. |
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bwoodard Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Mich.
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: |
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I totally cleaned the horn when I got it so I know its clean. I will check the Amado keys again to see if there is something to that. Horn has had some smaller dents removed but is in overall, really good condition.
I'm a trumpet guy so maybe it is just the difference between the two instruments that I am not used to. _________________ Veteran comebacker!
Bob
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Tootsall Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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When they drill out the drain hole through the slide tubing for the Amado water keys, sometimes a small burr is left on the inside of the tubing that will obstruct the draining of water. On my Jupiter flugel I disassembled the water keys and took a NEW drill bit that is just one tic larger than the hole and redrilled them VERY SLOWLY and carefully. The problem disappeared. If you don't feel good about trying this yourself then the repairman is the answer. You might be able to see evidence of this problem if you can look down the 3rd slide with a good light and see the inside of the tubing where the Amado is positioned or if you can "feel" with a small dowel rod (end of a pencil will do) to see if there is a "snag" at that location that is greater than you would expect from just the drilled-out opening. |
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Bucaneer61 Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 230 Location: Buckhannon, WV
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Capri and I find it to be quite free blowing. My son, who plays professionally also likes the horn. The amado keys are the first I have had on a horn and I find that I need to empty them more often than my trumpets, but the more I have progressed in my comeback, the less condensation I produce, so that may be the same for you as well. Good Luck.
Michael _________________ Selmer Radial Bb ML - Jan., 1972
Selmer Radial C XL - Jan., 1972
Getzen 580S cornet - c. 1973
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