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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Cichowicz Flow Studies Reply with quote

Does anyone have any information or literature regarding Mr. Cichowicz's methodology of his flow studies? I have searched this website and the internet and cannot find anything. I am curious learn of any quotes or documentation he left behind as to his thought process behind the origins and application of these studies. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go:
http://www.tulsaband.com/store/product.php?productid=184&cat=278&page=15
There is a thread on Trumpetmaster regarding this:
http://www.trumpetmaster.com/vb/f131/finding-vincent-cichowicz-flow-studies-32561.html

More on the web:
http://abel.hive.no/trumpet/clarke/tech/vc/
http://www.trumpetguild.org/conferences/conference99/friday/f14d.htm
http://tpin.okcu.edu/pipermail/tpin/2003-February/003117.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click on the "Search" tab up top, type "flow studies", select this forum, and you will find a number of threads discussing flow studies and the man behind them. - Don
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing you could do is go to IU and take a lesson from Rommel if you want to know about the Flow Studies. Or most anyone who is a serious advocate of Cichowitz.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Rommel teaches at Indiana University. He studied with both Cichowicz and Bill Adam, among others.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a copy of the flow studies from Northwestern University directly. It's not as complete as some other compilations other people have, who studied directly from Chicowicz himself, but it has all the essentials.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NW book that most get (including myself) is the book used when you sign up for the class. He would of course add material as appropriate, but the book has the basics. The objective (per Dr. C) was to help prepare students to enter the real world of playing.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never got the book - neither when I signed up, nor when I checked out four years later.
I have a lot of xeroxed pages, though...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tptfrbrains wrote:
I never got the book - neither when I signed up, nor when I checked out four years later.
I have a lot of xeroxed pages, though...

r.


I guess you went without the flow.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UsedToKnowEverything wrote:
tptfrbrains wrote:
I never got the book - neither when I signed up, nor when I checked out four years later.
I have a lot of xeroxed pages, though...

r.


I guess you went without the flow.




Without question one of the best comments I've ever read here.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or against the flow...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Chicowitz advocate Reply with quote

[quote="jpetrocelli"]The best thing you could do is go to IU and take a lesson from Rommel if you want to know about the Flow Studies. Or most anyone who is a serious advocate of Cichowitz.


Another serious advocate of Chicowitz is Keith Johnson. He and Rommel are both amazing teachers and will be able to explain any questions about Flow Studies and the Chicago School.

I also recommend Prof. Johnson's two books: "The Art of Trumpet Playing," and "Brass Performance and Pedagogy." They are easy reads, and are both extremely applicable for teachers and players.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that the recent book Back To Basics: The Teaching of Vincent Cichowicz, published by Scholar Publications was the best summary of VC's methodology (or however you want to categorize his approach). I have not studied extensively with many of his students, but have taken about 10 lessons in total from various students of his, and I do own and use the Northwestern book. As a very dedicated teacher, I found that this book immensely helped to clarify my pedagogy as well. Buy it!

http://scholarpublications.com/ScholarPublicationsSite/Back_to_Basics.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have about 3 tattered copies of the official flow study book created by Cichowicz. I studied there from '92 to '96, and, at that time you went to the Kinko's in Evanston and bought the course book. I'm sure it isn't that hard to find a copy these days, and there are a lot of other Compilations. I also have flow studies compilations by Daval and Phil Collins. However, neither of these includes the forward that the Northwestern course booklet had. I think this is what people need to read to understand why Cichowicz used them and why we all should. Here is the forward as it is written by Cichowicz.

These studies are an important medium in which to develop a free, flexible production of sound upon which all aspects of trumpet technique depend. It would be a mistake to view them solely as a means to develop finger dexterity. Herbert L. Clarke, who deplored so called "long tone" studies, espoused the practice of material with movement instead of long tones (i.e: Technical Studies) and is the forefather of this concept. These studies are an extension and elaboration of this principal. They are most effective when practiced at moderate speeds, taking care to produce a clear, flexible sound and that the connection of the notes be smooth and without distortion. I view finger dexterity as a collateral benefit rather than the main purpose of these etudes. Further benefit may be had by utilizing varied articulations and transpostions.

So, that is how Cichowicz explained the reason behind flow studies.

Hope this is helpful!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chipper983 wrote:
I found that the recent book Back To Basics: The Teaching of Vincent Cichowicz, published by Scholar Publications was the best summary of VC's methodology (or however you want to categorize his approach). I have not studied extensively with many of his students, but have taken about 10 lessons in total from various students of his, and I do own and use the Northwestern book. As a very dedicated teacher, I found that this book immensely helped to clarify my pedagogy as well. Buy it!

http://scholarpublications.com/ScholarPublicationsSite/Back_to_Basics.html


This is a great book, I have one my self and have gained tremendous insight on my own playing. The best read of my life, Highly recomended.

Well, I suppose the Inner Game of Tennis by T Gallwey is really good too...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what if you are not going to ITG?
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There will be a way to get it.........patience.....it will be worth the wait.
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Ron Burgundy wrote:
If you are coming to ITG, look for something new on this subject.....a little birdie told me.


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Holy Smokes Mr. Burgundy, I hope like heck I haven't been playing the Northwestern alma mater in the wrong octave all these years!!
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