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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:04 am    Post subject: Bernie Glow: The Way It Was Reply with quote

http://www.jazzprofessional.com/profiles/Bernie%20Glow.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the greatest line EVAR:

"Unlike the gracious free-lance literary life, which consists, to a great degree, in sitting in bars and restaurants and talking about what one isn't writing, ... "

Truly awesome!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lot of nuggets in that piece. Can you imagine what it must have been like with all those players milling around the Roseland Ballroom vying for a job? Reminded me of the shape-up for dockhands in "On The Waterfront."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim: Thanks for posting the Bernie Glow article. I actually remember reading that article when it came out in the New Yorker in 1969.

BTW, it made me dust off my one album with Bernie Glow playing. It is an album of brass music put out in the mid-50's by the Classical and Jazz Society of New York. Its an interesting album because Glow, Miles Davis, JJ Johnson and other jazz greats are playing along with classical greats like John Ware and Mel Broiles. --When I googled one of the numbers, "Three Little Feelings" by John Lewis, I see that a CD of the album (plus some other music) was put out in 1996 as "The Birth of the Third Stream." (kinda of pricey though, so maybe its out of print.) My album jacket describes Glow's high F in the piece "Pharaoh" by Jimmy Giuffre as raising the roof off Columbia studios.

Thanks again for the memory.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Bernie Glow Reply with quote

A little trivia
Doc used Bernie on his first two albums
To really appreciate His playing, get a copy
of Bill Potts" Porgy and Bess. The first chord tells all.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Bernie Reply with quote

Actually , that's not quite true -- Doc's first album on Command "Tempestuous Trumpet" (1961) did NOT feature a trumpet section at all -- just Doc and trombones, saxes, and rhythm --- His second album "The Big Band's Back in Town" (1962) DID have the standard big-band instrumentation with this stellar trumpet section---

Bernie Glow
Ernie Royal
Mel Davis
Marky Markowitz
Jimmy Maxwell

I could be wrong, but it sounds to be as if Ernie is playing lead on this date --- or maybe they split it -----
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Bernie Glow Reply with quote

Hi Rickster. I stand corrected on that first Doc album. Maybe someone can ask Doc about that second album
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Doc Reply with quote

Here is "Granada" from 1962's "The Big Band's Back In Town" , with that monster trumpet section and a young (age 35) virtuoso Doc Severinsen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZPXKoR2Mek
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:48 am    Post subject: Mid-50's Classical and Jazz Society Album Reply with quote

Pat wrote:
Jim: Thanks for posting the Bernie Glow article. I actually remember reading that article when it came out in the New Yorker in 1969.

BTW, it made me dust off my one album with Bernie Glow playing. It is an album of brass music put out in the mid-50's by the Classical and Jazz Society of New York. Its an interesting album because Glow, Miles Davis, JJ Johnson and other jazz greats are playing along with classical greats like John Ware and Mel Broiles. --When I googled one of the numbers, "Three Little Feelings" by John Lewis, I see that a CD of the album (plus some other music) was put out in 1996 as "The Birth of the Third Stream." (kinda of pricey though, so maybe its out of print.) My album jacket describes Glow's high F in the piece "Pharaoh" by Jimmy Giuffre as raising the roof off Columbia studios.

Thanks again for the memory.


Pat: Thank-you for this post. A friend of mine played it for me years ago when I was in college. I've been trying to track it down since then.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not a lead player/ high-note specialist aficionado, , but Bernie Glow has always been one of my favourite players. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Mid-50's Classical and Jazz Society Album Reply with quote

Actually, it looks like "The Birth of the Third Stream" was not the album after all. The one I'm looking for had Doc, Bernie Glow and Mel Broiles doing showcase stuff. This album only credits Glow and Broiles. Alas! The quest continues...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the record you're thinking of "Music for Brass?"
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Is the record you're thinking of "Music for Brass?"


What label would that be?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Columbia but that's reaching back into he stone age.

The record you're referring to, sounds like Muic for Brass, but I don't think Bernie Glow was on it . . . not sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Bernie Glow Reply with quote

medium4 wrote:
To really appreciate His playing, get a copy
of Bill Potts" Porgy and Bess. The first chord tells all.
This arrived today. The CD has no information at all about any of the players or the band. Can anyone fill me in with information?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Bernie Reply with quote

rickster wrote:
Actually , that's not quite true -- Doc's first album on Command "Tempestuous Trumpet" (1961) did NOT feature a trumpet section at all -- just Doc and trombones, saxes, and rhythm --- His second album "The Big Band's Back in Town" (1962) DID have the standard big-band instrumentation with this stellar trumpet section---

Bernie Glow
Ernie Royal
Mel Davis
Marky Markowitz
Jimmy Maxwell

I could be wrong, but it sounds to be as if Ernie is playing lead on this date --- or maybe they split it -----
The CD has both of these albums on one CD. Unfortunately there is no information on either of the bands. Anyone know if the original records had such info on them?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a story that involves (I think) either Bernie Glow or Ernie Royal. It might not involve either of them but it's still a good story. Apparently one of them was playing a studio gig involving a lot of high register playing. These were amazing lead players but they weren't the kind of players who could play these notes indefinitely. As the story goes, there was retake after retake. Finally, whoever was playing looked at the contractor and said, "If you wanted Snooky Young why didn't you hire Snooky Young?"

Great story. Fun stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that line, “He’s a real brute.” We sometimes call players “monsters”.
You don’t often hear an oboe or flute player called a monster. 😄
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an image that shows the back cover of "The Big Band's Back in Town"

https://www.discogs.com/Doc-Severinsen-The-Big-Bands-Back-In-Town/release/2557566

Here is Tempestuous Trumpet but doesn't seem to show personnel:

https://www.discogs.com/Doc-Severinsen-And-His-Orchestra-Tempestuous-Trumpet/release/1579681
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