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RhythmDoctor Regular Member
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 42 Location: Swarthmore, PA
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've been invited to sit in with an orchestra and chorus sight-reading Mozart's Requiem. I'm not an "orchestra guy," as most all my playing is brass quintet, big band, and wedding solos.
I'd like advice on equipment. Is the traditional C trumpet best? Or, since it's in D minor, does it play better on D? What key is the part usually written in? I can pick whatever trumpet works best, and transpose the part accordingly, but if it's an awkward interval, I'd like to practice the transposition first. (Not sure I can get the actual part ahead of time.)
Thanks for your help.
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RGale Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 2818
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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The part is usually in C, I think. Play it on C. It is not diffucult, and the music is so great that you won't mind that the part really isn't much. It may be in D , and D would also work. Heck, you can even play it on natural trumpet if that's your thing.
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walter Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 428 Location: near Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Hey Rick- I gave Linda your name for the gig. You'll be playing it with a guy named Jim Edwards, who I think went to high school with me. Good player.
Does anyone know Jim Edwards' (in Philadelphia area) phone number? Linda can't find Jim's phone number and she wants to reach him before the reading. If you do, then email me or Rick Sonntag. |
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bachstrad72 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 871 Location: NJ/Philly
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys, will this be performed puclically. I only ask because I am local and love that piece. Oh and when I played it, I used a C trumpet, and was in D minor. The Lacrymosa from the requiem is one of the most beautiful pieces ever written. |
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RhythmDoctor Regular Member
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 42 Location: Swarthmore, PA
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Walter - Thanks for the referral! Linda had mentioned that she got my name from you. When I posted my message I completely forgot that you're a participant here, otherwise I'd have credited you.
bachstrad72 - As a mere guest, I can't formally invite you. But my understanding is that it's a alumni group at Swarthmore College's Lang Center. Not a public performance, but I suspect there will be enough friends and family listening that an inconspicuous onlooker wouldn't be noticed - unless they have name badges for people who have paid reunion dues, or something like that. If you'd like, you can email me and I'll send you Linda's number so you can ask. (Trumpet@RickSonntag.com)
Let me know if you're coming - I'm always interested in meeting other musicians.
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trumpeterb Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 236 Location: Western Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 3:56 am Post subject: |
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I played this piece several times. The last two times, I used a Bb rotary trumpet. It worked out really nicely. I never used a C, and if my memory serves me correctly, I believe the reason was because the trumpet part went out of the range of the C trumpet on the low end. I am not positive about this, but I believe that was the case. The rotary trumpet works very well, however. The sound is perfect for the piece.
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Cheng Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 492 Location: Santa Rosa, CA (the real wine country)
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I just went thru a rehearsal of the Mozart Requiem last night. (I am in the chorus for this) and one was using his Bb trumpet and transposing and the other a D trumpet and only had to branspose for those movements not in D.
They blended quite well. The parts are not difficult and easy to transpose. I would probably use my C trumpet because I do not have a D.
The only difficulty from the orchestra was the trombone in the third movement. The Bass soloist wanted it much faster than the trombone was able to play. Should be ok on Saturday and Sunday when we do the performance. _________________ Harry Marks
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tcutrpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would think that a rotary horn would give the best sound for this piece. I played it on C last year because I didn't have access to a rotary horn. That would be the way to go if you can get one. _________________ Matt Cyr
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King1500 Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2002 Posts: 218 Location: London, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have played both parts for this and found C worked best for the first part and Bb for the second as in the last movement you have a few low Gs.
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fuzzyjon79 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Posts: 3014 Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of Mozart's requiem... I have always heard that he died before finishing it... I'm not sure if this is correct or not, but if this is correct information, who finished it for him? Thanks! _________________ J. Fowler
"It takes a big ole' sack of flour, to make a big ole' pan of biscuits!" |
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KevinInGeorgia Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 May 2002 Posts: 738 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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klorenz Regular Member
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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I actually just watched Amadeus the movie only a week ago, and it suggests that Saliere helped Mozart to finish the requiem. This is an interesting twist, yet probably impossible. I love that movie, but it is quite historically incorrect. |
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_Clarino Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 1087 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Sussmayer finished the Requiem for Mozart. At least he's the one who gets the credit in the score. As for playing it, I would think that an Eb trumpet would provide the most apropriate sound and if memory serves much of the trumpet music is in Eb or D. One bit requires the second trumpet to play a Bb trumpet as it has to play concert Fs.
Hope this helps.
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