I feel like starting an argument

lmf · Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:46 am Post subject:

That is one "classy" bunny for sure! Do you think he endorses Bach!

johnsboy · Veteran Member Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 380

I believe he is an endorsing bunny for Bisquick.

butxifxnot · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 2353

ANAM,

You're probably going to start having to pay royalties on that picture.

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Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject:

To the bunny or the pancake company?
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razeontherock · Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject:

My Dad was a HS band Director by 1960, and continued til retirement. The "Bach sound" is a BIG part of it, as were the professional endorsements. Marketing was of course key, but their quality wasn't too shabby for a while there either - right through the 70's.

There was nothing innovative about Bach, which worked in their favor. No risk to buying one. Conn was king of innovation IMHO, but Harry Glantz's horn just doesn't sound like a good Bach.

Charlie Melk's CBW blows all the above away, for roughly the same coin.

a better view · Veteran Member Joined: 20 Dec 2002 Posts: 114

Once Germany lost WWII the Illuminati powers left the Axis countries where they had tried to exert influence. They moved to America where the new seat of power lay.

They had been doing experiments in concentration camps relating to mind control through music. They realized there were certain harmonic pitches and frequencies that could change thought patterns of the young. The Illuminati took control of Bach and used their considerable influence and wealth to raise up Bach to prominence.

The "Bach Sound" is actually a mind control frequency. Did you notice how quickly hippies developed in that first post war generation?

Illuminati....it's real....it's Bach

A.N.A.Mendez · Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject:

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John Mohan · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:56 am Post subject:

"And what's all this fuss about youth in Asia?"

lmf · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject:

Too much drama!

Love it!

Lloyd

James B. Quick · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject:

Well, All I can say about this subject is that when the communists want to take over a country, the first thing they do is use the media and popular music to get all of the kids interested in sex. I know this is true because my eigth grade nun taught us it was so. They don't lie.

How about that, I got religion and politics all wrapped up neatly in a single paragraph!

James

lmf · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject:

A.N.A.Mendez · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject:

deleted_user_fdb91a0 · New Member Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0

Perhaps Bach garnered so much attention from endorsing artists simply because of his location in NY? Had he been located in Topeka, would he have cornered the market?

Also, perhaps trumpet players back then were similar to trumpet players today. We love the niche product; pay a little more for the prestige of owning a small-batch instrument. Did he offer a student-model trumpet back then? If not, I feel like that would also play into it. A guy who ONLY builds "pro" horns generates a lot of prestige for himself.

As far as cornering the market on high school band rooms, marketing is everything. He built a foundation of artist endorsements, then marketed the sh*t out of it. He had a quality product, at a decent price, and great marketing. Are there better trumpets out there? Of course. But considering the fact that the "Bach" sound is practically the ONLY sound in orchestral music (for the last 40 years), and considering the fact that most high school students never really move into the jazz idiom, it's no wonder as to why the Bach brand has come out on top.

It's a legitter's world, and Bach is his weapon of choice.

leadchops10 · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject:

Bach has without a doubt came so far.

p76 · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:18 am Post subject:

Having had the fortune to play a pre-war Bach, I can say that they were great horns (better than any of the post 1970 ones I've played).

I think there's a bit to a few of the theories that have been put up here.

Initially, Bach made good instruments. Located in NY, he was able to get some good endorsements, esp. in Symphony Orchestras.

School band directors in the early years were biased to the orchestral side of the equation, saw that the "big boys" were playing Bachs, and therefore recommended them to their kids. (Of course they may not be playing the same model as the pros). The other US brands did not have the same penetration in the Orchestral world, and suffered for that.

This begins to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. One of my trumpet teachers in the late 70s was ex Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and was a total Bach head. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your viewpoint), my parents could only afford a Yamaha 634 for me.

I can certainly say that at my school there was serious Bach envy among the students, and the kids that had Strads had "made it". Even the guy who was playing an absolutely beautiful 50s Olds Recording wanted a Strad. So it is some sort of brainwashing.

Thankfully, by the time I could actually afford to buy one with my own money, I realized it wasn't the sound for me.....or maybe I was too used to my 634. So I spent the money on beer....but that's another story

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