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combatguitar Regular Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: RMC Committee |
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I have an RMC Committee with the SR# 121XXX. The engraving on the bell is length wise instead of across the bell. It has the RMC in the shield and then Martin Committee Made in USA. No other markings on the horn besides the SR#. The bore size is 470 at the second valve slide measured from the inside. It plays great and has a bright tone and is raw brass. I have owned and played four other Committees including one that was a large bore all pre 1950s. This RMC sounds totally different, bright hard hitting tone, almost sounds like an MF ST302 but not as free blowing or as loud when you put the pedal to the floor. Played easy it sounds like Miles horns from the late sixties. I can't find any info except the usual one paragraph about RMC. I have owned and played at least 25 horns and this one is different than all of them in the versatility it has to offer. Anybody know anything about these horns besides the usual quote from the Dallas website? _________________ Play Hard Play Live!
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supportlivejazz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 3757
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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The serial number you posted does not make sense to me relative to Committees and/or RMC. The number should be in the 200,000 range. Can you post photos? _________________ Conn 6B
1940s Blessing Artist
Olds LA Special Model Cornet
"I'm not apologizing, I am what I am. There'll be no compromising, I don't give a damn." |
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combatguitar Regular Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject: RMC SR# |
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supportlivejazz wrote: | The serial number you posted does not make sense to me relative to Committees and/or RMC. The number should be in the 200,000 range. Can you post photos? | That is the number stamped on left side of the second valve casing. When I did my search for info I realized the number on the horn didn't match anything published. I am new to the site and as soon as I figure out how to post some pix I will. _________________ Play Hard Play Live!
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lipshurt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2642 Location: vista ca
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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yeah that all sounds pretty wrong to me too.
470? that's really weird. What is it at the end of the leadpipe?
If it's raw brass, then I bet it's a frankenhorn of some kind.
120XXX, I think (THINK!) should have three pointed valve guides. That is off the top of my head though!
Gotta see photos of this one:)
Doug M _________________ Mouthpiece Maker
vintage Trumpet design enthusiast
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mpo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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That serial number does not sound right as that would be in the early Handcraft range. RMC Committee's were not made for long and all that I have owned used the original tooling and engraving. RMC just simply engraved their stamp above the Martin script. You more than likely have a Frankenhorn as Martin/RMC/Wurlitzer/Leblanc didn't make a 470 bore for the Committee. All of the large bores measured at .468. Were you just rounding up or does it actually measure at .470?
Post some pics and we should be able to help you. |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I think Bill Ortiz has a couple of .470 Committees. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
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cb3 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 853 Location: LA
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: ok |
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Just take a picture of the horn, email it to someone here and let them post it. That info. you gave just doesn't sound right with what is generally known about Committee's. _________________ Trumpets:
Martin Committee
Harrelson Summit
Bach Strad/Harrelson Conv.
Getzen Severinsen
Conn 8B (4-sale)
Martin Committee/Imperial (4-sale)
Olds Studio/(4-sale)
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combatguitar Regular Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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mpo wrote: | That serial number does not sound right as that would be in the early Handcraft range. RMC Committee's were not made for long and all that I have owned used the original tooling and engraving. RMC just simply engraved their stamp above the Martin script. You more than likely have a Frankenhorn as Martin/RMC/Wurlitzer/Leblanc didn't make a 470 bore for the Committee. All of the large bores measured at .468. Were you just rounding up or does it actually measure at .470?
Post some pics and we should be able to help you. | I sent some pix out and I didn't round up. I was selling the horn at one time and just assumed it was an ML. I just measured it one day and was quite surprised. It has a 5 inch bell also but looks like a an older Committee with the trombone water keys and the valve buttons look like they are from the 30s', small, not like the committees from the 40s and 50s. All the solder marks look original also. _________________ Play Hard Play Live!
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supportlivejazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe an old or non Martin valve block with a Martin bell and slides... who knows? Without photos... no way of telling. _________________ Conn 6B
1940s Blessing Artist
Olds LA Special Model Cornet
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