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Dauminator3 Regular Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 98 Location: Decatur, Illinois
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I guess you could say that I'm not the greatest trumpet player in the world, but I try. In my school jazz band, I regularly play high d's, but after one or two songs that have a lot of them...my chops are shot. In the practice room, I try to accomplish every thing that I wanted before working on range(which for me is just playing two octave scales going up cromatically(not sure if this is the right way to do it)) because once I play the scales up to an E or F, my tone gets really fuzzy and I immediatly lose hope of really practicing anymore. As a soon to be junior in high school, is this a problem?
Any advice or different stratagies would be greatly appreciated.
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds to me like maybe you're not warming up properly. Try warming up longer and playing softer and more relaxed than you ever have.
Make yourself take the horn off your face frequently. Play a minute. Rest 30 seconds. Play a minute. Rest 30 seconds. Then play two minutes and rest 30 seconds. Don't play anything above the staff. Just focus on getting a full, open sound.
Relax. Breath deep. Keep your throat open. Play with your chest high. Hold the horn so loose you're close to dropping it.
Start with second line G and play it for seven counts. Rest one count. Then play four quarter notes and eight eighths and then play a final whole note and hold it as long as you can.
Do this down to low F#, then go up to the top of the staff and back down again.
This is pretty boring so just keep thinking about the great sound you're making and how much better you're going to play later on that day for taking the time and trouble to warm up this way. _________________ Jim Hatfield
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Dauminator3 Regular Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 98 Location: Decatur, Illinois
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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What should be the very first thing I do when deciding to play? Usually I wake up and within the hour I am practicing. I start out about 5 min before I pick up my horn free buzzing and such. Then I try to do some work on the mouthpiece. After I usually play the Clarke #2 studies from the low g up to the mid staff g. Then a couple lip slurs and thats about it, about 15-20 min.
About the "rest as much as you play" thing that is going around. I find it very hard to do so because I really want to play and I feel like I am wasting time. I know it is probably best for me to do so and I struggle to try but never really end up doing it.
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Dauminator3 Regular Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 98 Location: Decatur, Illinois
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing is about the school day. I usually try to free buzz the class before, but other than that, I have about 1-2 minutes actually with the horn before I have to play. I kind of feel like I have to play all the time because I don't feel like there is a solid section behind me, legit and jazz.
Jared _________________ "I just want you to nail the pee-whillies out of that high C." -Our beloved director-
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INTJ Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 1986 Location: Northern Idaho
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Pops told me free-buzzing was very demanding on the chops and to not do too much as it can wear you out. I think he suggested 15 minutes a day as a sensible maximum, and very little if any at all before playing.
Pops also told me tension in the embochure will quickly wear you out, so to try and relax the chops as much as possible. Usually, increasing air support will help as well.
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Dauminator3 Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks....Any other suggestions on overall playing at my age?
Jared |
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trjeam Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2001 Posts: 2072 Location: Edgewood, Maryland
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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On 2003-06-10 18:09, Dauminator3 wrote:
I guess you could say that I'm not the greatest trumpet player in the world, but I try. In my school jazz band, I regularly play high d's, but after one or two songs that have a lot of them...my chops are shot. In the practice room, I try to accomplish every thing that I wanted before working on range(which for me is just playing two octave scales going up cromatically(not sure if this is the right way to do it)) because once I play the scales up to an E or F, my tone gets really fuzzy and I immediatly lose hope of really practicing anymore. As a soon to be junior in high school, is this a problem?
Any advice or different stratagies would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks-Jared
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Here is a article i wrote on this endurance topic and some links that might help you out:
http://trjeam.tripod.com/book/articles/endurance.html
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Castle Bravo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Incorporate soft lip flexabilities into your warmup....it worked for me. |
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_Don Herman 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3344 Location: Monument, CO, USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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There are some good articles on the ITG Youth site... Go to http://www.trumpetguild.org and follow the "Youth Site" links. Warmups, general info, etc. Good for comback players (CPs), too.
A recent ITG issue had a "youth" insert which included a plan for a 30-minute practice session.
HTH - Don _________________ Don Herman/Monument, CO
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